Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- SOLVED!

2003-08-28 Thread Gonzalo Servat
Hi All, Just thought I'd wait long enough before claiming it was solved again :) For reference, the original email is below. Essentially I had a problem where my system would freeze up every day or two (if not multiple times during the day). Suspects were temperature, PSU, RAM, motherboard, etc

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Collins
Gonzalo Servat wrote: > > Have you done the basic cable/chip wiggle test? (remove+replace),3, * > > every cable and chip[1]. > > Sorry Terry, I don't follow this "(remove+replace),3,*" process? You take cable, remove from pins, replace cable on pins, and repeat this process three times. Do this

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 9:40 PM +1000, Patrick Lesslie wrote: I have a very similar system, (Athlon 1800+, Matrox G550 dualhead) and apparently the same problem. I have heard that Athlons like this suffer from overheating, so I assumed it was that. It freezes sometimes when there is a lot of system activity

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
> This one time, at band camp, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > > Any other suggestions? It has one other defect where you sometimes have > > to press the reset button a number of times before you actually get > > video output which leads me to believe maybe it is the motherboard. > > It could be that a

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrr

2003-08-14 Thread Gerald Catling
On Monday 11 August 2003 16:13, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > This one time, at band camp, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > > > Any other suggestions? It has one other defect where you sometimes have > > > to press the reset button a number of times before you actually get > > > video output which leads me to

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- SOLVED (so far so good)

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
Hi All, Thanks very much to everyone who had their input on my problem. The problem was indeed the power supply. It's been running for 1 day and 6 hours so far without a crash so I'm pretty certain (touch wood) that it's fixed. I learnt a few things from this problem: 1. It's not good to be

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 8/08/2003 9:59 AM +1000, John Clarke wrote: Power supply. I had a system which would randomly fall over with no apparent cause. I replaced the RAM, video and network cards, motherboard and CPU but nothing changed. Then one day, it wouldn't power up so I replaced the power supply and it's run

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 10:29 AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Gonzalo Servat wrote: FWIW, the system is running Gentoo kernel 2.4.19, {:-) that is obviously your problem. One of your libaries needs a recompile :-) Did you say new CPU & mobo? But you didn't list your mobo. It's a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 HW f

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-14 Thread DE LUCA Ben
Um but back to the orignal problem :) I was just reading some thing and i wonder if it might be a similar problem. Would it be ok if you put a sync in roots cron to run every hour. if itr fixes it i have a link for you! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: htt

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Paine
> On 7/08/2003 7:21 PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote: > >> Hi Gonzalo, >> Try removing everything that is *not* absolutely needed in the >> computer. Ie all the cards that are not needed. Could be one of those >> causing the problem. Remove *one* of the memory chips if possible and >> leave the other i

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread David
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > On 7/08/2003 9:40 PM +1000, Patrick Lesslie wrote: > > > I have a very similar system, (Athlon 1800+, Matrox G550 dualhead) > > and apparently the same problem. I have heard that Athlons like this > > suffer from overheating, so I assumed it was that.

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 10:44 AM +1000, John McQuillen wrote: It's a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 Your motherboard uses the NForce2 chipset, support for which, I believe, is best gained from the NVIDIA binary drivers available here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html I hope this helps, Thanks John. The drivers

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-14 Thread Matt M
It's worth noting that not all power supplies supply the wattage they are rated for. There has been a fair amount of debate about this in hardware/overclocking circles lately. The consensus is that basically only the Antec TruePower series is really good at supplying the right wattage, cleanly

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:35:15AM +1000, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > At the moment it's sitting on -29C (so it says anyway) I don't believe that. I'd expect it to be more like +35C to +45C. Mine (2GHz P4) is normally +40C, rising two or three degrees when under load. Cheers, John -- whois [EMA

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Mary
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > I'm experiencing complete (and random) system freezes every day or > two. I've not found a pattern yet, it happens at random. System specs as > follows: > > Athlon 1800+ CPU > 256MB DDR > Matrox G400 Dualhead > 2 x HDD > 2 x SCSI CDROM >

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Saenz
> Lower temp limit is +20C and max is +60C so you could be right. At the > moment it's sitting on -29C (so it says anyway).. but it's not freezing, > yet.. I had another freeze this morning.. ggr! What cooling system do you have? It's even colder than ambient temperature. -- SLUG - Sydne

RE: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-14 Thread Jon Biddell
-=> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:55:59AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: -=> > Think "sick building syndrome". Basically, new -=> office/office works and -=> > factories produce lots of "fumes" that can deposit on -=> nice new shiny -=> > pins and provide an insulating layer of gunk that causes -=>

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-14 Thread Gonzalo Servat
The first word that comes to mind is "rage". I left my machine alone for a while and when I came back I tried to move the mouse. The pointer would not move. I look at the clock, the clock did not increase count. I look down at the case, the hard disk activity light is permanently on. Oh no, the

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-11 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Gonzalo Servat wrote: >Any other suggestions? It has one other defect where you sometimes have to >press the reset button a number of times before you actually get video >output which leads me to believe maybe it is the motherboard. It could be that a 400W psu still

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-11 Thread Graham Smith
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:59, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > >Any other suggestions? It has one other defect where you sometimes have to > >press the reset button a number of times before you actually get video > >output which leads me to believe maybe it

RE: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- NOT SOLVED (grrrr)

2003-08-10 Thread Tiwari, Rajnish
It may be another wild goose chase - as I am sorry to say that I haven't followed your thread - if you disable say your primary IDE controller and swap disks over to the secondary and then observe the systems behaviour. I am thinking of IDE controller problems. Just a thought. Regards, Raj ::>

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-10 Thread Dave Airlie
can you change you AGP speed, try clocking back to 2x or 4X in the BIOS and see if that helps... Dave. On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote: > Gonzalo, > > I used to have that problem. My computer would freeze in Windows > when ever playing a 3d game. I found it would freeze spasmodically > us

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-10 Thread John McQuillen
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:38, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > On 7/08/2003 10:29 AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > > > Gonzalo Servat wrote: > > Did you say new CPU & mobo? > > But you didn't list your mobo. > > It's a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 > Your motherboard uses the NForce2 chipset, support for which, I

RE: [SLUG] Random System Freezes -- SOLVED (so far so good)

2003-08-10 Thread Jon Biddell
-=>400W and a 320W... and you know where I can stick the 320W? Not a wise thing to ask on this list, my friend !!!...:-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 7:21 PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote: Hi Gonzalo, Try removing everything that is *not* absolutely needed in the computer. Ie all the cards that are not needed. Could be one of those causing the problem. Remove *one* of the memory chips if possible and leave the other in. then change it o

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:55:59AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > Think "sick building syndrome". Basically, new office/office works and > factories produce lots of "fumes" that can deposit on nice new shiny > pins and provide an insulating layer of gunk that causes intermittent > problem. This rem

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On 7 Aug 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote: > Gonzalo, > > I used to have that problem. My computer would freeze in Windows > when ever playing a 3d game. I found it would freeze spasmodically > using Linux. The problem was with my mother board and a buggy ACPI > component. Now I have ACPI modules installe

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 8/08/2003 10:26 AM +1000, David wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Gonzalo Servat wrote: On 7/08/2003 9:40 PM +1000, Patrick Lesslie wrote: > I have a very similar system, (Athlon 1800+, Matrox G550 dualhead) > and apparently the same problem. I have heard that Athlons like this > suffer from over

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-08 Thread Kevin Saenz
Gonzalo, I used to have that problem. My computer would freeze in Windows when ever playing a 3d game. I found it would freeze spasmodically using Linux. The problem was with my mother board and a buggy ACPI component. Now I have ACPI modules installed and I have not experienced a freeze. Hope th

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-08 Thread Kevin Saenz
> I've tried removing the G400 too just incase it was the video card > overheating (I replaced it with a PCI S3) but it froze too (rather quickly > I might add). I also ran lm-sensors overnight and left it as "sticky" on my > desktop and on the upper layer, so that if it freezes I'll see what

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-08 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:59:37AM +1000, Gonzalo Servat wrote: > Thanks to all who replied and keep the suggestions coming :) Power supply. I had a system which would randomly fall over with no apparent cause. I replaced the RAM, video and network cards, motherboard and CPU but nothing changed

Re: Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-07 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 11:14 AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you run a complete memory test over the system. Quite often these sort of things are a dud memory chip. Yeah, I ran memtest for 8 hours overnight with no problems. Regards, Gonzalo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-07 Thread Ben Donohue
Hi Gonzalo, Try removing everything that is *not* absolutely needed in the computer. Ie all the cards that are not needed. Could be one of those causing the problem. Remove *one* of the memory chips if possible and leave the other in. then change it over. some systems will allow this. remove CD

Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-06 Thread Terry Collins
Gonzalo Servat wrote: > FWIW, the system is running Gentoo kernel 2.4.19, {:-) that is obviously your problem. One of your libaries needs a recompile Did you say new CPU & mobo? But you didn't list your mobo. I have a MSI mobo that does this under linux, but noth that other OS. HW freeze up