Re: Qi reasoning

2009-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson writes: > If your SD is broken your boot menu won't help you anyway, and Qi will use > the > kernel and rootfs in NAND. AFAIK uboot can't help you recover from a hosed SD > either. With uboot I can pass different kernel parameters, I could pass it a parameter do tell it to mount roo

Re: Qi reasoning

2009-06-29 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 29 June 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Al Johnson writes: > > severely limited. A proof of concept minimal kernel and initrd has been > > made to give full multiboot capability, and could provide all the > > features uboot has. > > Except that Qi does not know how to load the initrd

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Jens Seidel
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 03:31:40PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > nikita pointed out that u-boot is csapable to boot kernels from > > elsewhere, but iirc the only location used on the fr has been mtd3, at > > least with the commonly used u-boot env. > > No. I agree :-) > I don't remembe

Re: Qi reasoning

2009-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson writes: > severely limited. A proof of concept minimal kernel and initrd has been made > to give full multiboot capability, and could provide all the features uboot > has. Except that Qi does not know how to load the initrd from NAND flash? If your SD card is broken you can't boot yo

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" writes: > Could someone please explain me what is so wrong with u-boot, so people > wrote qi? I'm am personally using Qi at the moment _only_ because it does not talk to glamo and I want to help in debugging glamo problem. Other reasons that I've heard: 1) it has not bee

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> nikita pointed out that u-boot is csapable to boot kernels from > elsewhere, but iirc the only location used on the fr has been mtd3, at > least with the commonly used u-boot env. No. I don't remember how exactly I configured bootloader after installing Debian - it was half-a-year-ago - but I d

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:07:38 +0200, Jens Seidel wrote: > > Note the symlink "uImage.bin -> $actual_kernel" > Thanks, this symlink was missing. > Lets see whether it boots now all the time, at least once it worked and I'm glad it worked! > now > I'm updating it via aptitude ... Updating from on

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
which boot manager and what medium do you boot from? uboot, I don't know from what medium I boot from, that's part of the question. Debian is installed on the SD card, /boot is an a separated partition /dev/mmcblk0p1 and of type ext3. well, looking into the u-boot env should solve that mystery

Qi reasoning (was Re: How to use the Debian kernel?)

2009-06-29 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 29 June 2009, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > P.S. > Could someone please explain me what is so wrong with u-boot, so people > wrote qi? > My many-year experience of using and porting u-boot on wide range of > embedded hardware is extremely positive... Ultimately I suppose the reason is a

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Jens Seidel
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:52:59AM +0200, arne anka wrote: > which boot manager and what medium do you boot from? uboot, I don't know from what medium I boot from, that's part of the question. Debian is installed on the SD card, /boot is an a separated partition /dev/mmcblk0p1 and of type ext3. >

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Jens Seidel
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:36:49AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:15:22 +0200, Jens Seidel wrote: > > I have Debian running on my Freerunner and have the package > > linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02 installed. Nevertheless the active kernel > > is 2.6.24. So it seems the ke

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> which boot manager and what medium do you boot from? > in case of u-boot, the current kernel has to be flashed to the matching > flash partition. take the uimage from he kernel package and dfu-util it. U-boot is very flexible, and may boot from almost anywhere. Including a file on ext2 filesyst

Re: How to use the Debian kernel?

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
which boot manager and what medium do you boot from? in case of u-boot, the current kernel has to be flashed to the matching flash partition. take the uimage from he kernel package and dfu-util it. with qi you need to check if the name of the file matches the name qi expects (when booting fr