Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Bryan
On the other side of this coin (which I completely agree with, BTW) I have many net-4801 units running flawlessly and haven't been rebooted in many years. I anticipate they will last another 5 years unless the throughput begins to exceed their capacity. All of my 6501-70's have been replaced by

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>as many of you I got my dead one here. Now I look foward to a >new brand, and look for same kind of issues on the new APU2 from >PcEngines. Does anyone knows if there is a mailing list, just as this, >for their products? There is an online forum (which I don't prefer):

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:26:48 -0400 Ken Hornstein wrote: Hi guys, as many of you I got my dead one here. Now I look foward to a new brand, and look for same kind of issues on the new APU2 from PcEngines. Does anyone knows if there is a mailing list, just as this, for their

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>I suppose if they were to discover that all of the boards had a >component with a fatal flaw then that would preclude them from selling >more of them? Here's the worst thing about this: WE DON'T KNOW! Soekris hasn't said, "Boards sold after date do not have any known defects". They haven't

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Andrew Atrens
Mostly folks stay on this list to discuss alternatives. I suspect some may have held out some hope for a bios workaround. I guess I'm kind of disappointed that Soekris hasn't been more transparent as I suspect they know exactly what's up with these boards. I notice the full complement of these

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Scott Gustafson
> On Apr 19, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: > - The only useful information regarding this problem AT ALL in the past few > YEARS has been suggestions on this mailing list for products to replace > your Soekris with. I appreciated seeing all of the different hardware

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>> In other words, are the replacements that Soekris is sending out vulnerable >>to the same problem? > >my replacement died 9 months later.. So, let me see if I accurately understand the situation: - The net6501 sometimes just dies. - If it's under warrantly, you will get it replaced. If not,

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Conrad Kostecki
Hi Bryan, > "Bryan K. Walton" hat am 18. April 2017 um 19:09 > geschrieben: > I had a net6501 replaced under warranty about two years ago. This has me > wondering: has anybody had a net6501 go bad, with the symptoms we have all > been discussing, then had it

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Julien Cigar
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:09:08PM -0500, Bryan K. Walton wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 08:09:39AM -0700, David Ruggiero wrote: > > > > Data point A: If you send a dead board back to Soekris _in_ the warranty > > period, it will be quickly replaced without question. > > speculation is