RE: [SAtalk] End user options that would be useful

2002-10-22 Thread Steve Thomas
| be possible to tell SA to ignore its own rule if the admin | defined one with the same name in his local.cf. That way Why not just set the score to 0 and create a similar rule with a different name? --- This sf.net emial is sponsored

[SAtalk] SA configuration not going so well

2002-10-22 Thread Amanda Robinson
I recently installed spamassassin system-wide under qmail using qmail-scanner, and I've run into two problems. 1. I'm running spamd with -q -x to look user preferences up in mysql. qmail-scanner doesn't seem to pass the username it's trying to deliver to, so it consistently checks the

RE: [SAtalk] How to generate $USER_HOME/.spamassassin

2002-10-22 Thread McClung, Darren W.
Have you looked at /var/log/maillog to see if it is having problems creating the config files? (you may need to run spamd in debug mode) The spamd user needs to be able to write to each user's home directory. Are you running spamd as root and letting it suid to each individual user, or are you

[SAtalk] A Bunch of Dumb questions

2002-10-22 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed DCC but when I watch debug output I get the following error: debug: DCC is not available: dccproc not found Also I get these errors about Razor1: debug: Razor1 is available debug: entering helper-app run mode debug: Razor Agents

Re: [SAtalk] corpus submissions

2002-10-22 Thread Rich Wellner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin Mason) writes: I still think my submissions of spam that isn't flagged by the system is of particular usefulness, am I deluding myself? It seems like FP's or FN's woul d always be the most useful additions. Well, too many and they'll overbalance the corpus [1] so

[SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Milt Epstein
Hi. Just joined up the list. I started using SpamAssassin about a week ago. Seems to be working well, but still a few false positives and false negatives (more of the latter). Anyway, I wanted to see if I could get help dealing with one repeating annoying spam message. Actually, I think the

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Frank Pineau
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:18:38 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: Both contain goldfish in the subject, one is just plain goldfish and one is Fw: goldfish. Both come from hotmail addresses. Both have attachments, one is application/octet-stream, one is audio/x-midi. Both say: Hi Dear Check the attach

Re: [SAtalk] Using spamc/spamd for aliases

2002-10-22 Thread gagel
You could have SpamAssassin running on a system that relays all mail to your mail server. That way it can tag/delete (however you set it up) the mail and then relay it to you. No more concerns about aliases... - Original Message Follows - Dear gurus, I use spamc/spamd for my local

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Milt Epstein
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Frank Pineau wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:18:38 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: Both contain goldfish in the subject, one is just plain goldfish and one is Fw: goldfish. Both come from hotmail addresses. Both have attachments, one is application/octet-stream, one is

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Milt Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are different definitions of what spam is, and I'm sure it fits some of them. [...] appears to the person receiving the mail, it looks like spam and can be dealt with as if it were spam. It doesn't really matter how it originated. Actually it

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Russ Gilman-Hunt
They say, when all you have is spamassassin, everything looks like a spam. Well, maybe they don't, but they should. (grin) I'd add something to your /etc/procmailrc file for this; perhaps some unique line from the attachment, and route it to dev/null. Because the document isn't random. You

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Sergeant
Milt Epstein said the following on 22/10/02 16:54: Anyway, if you're talking about theoretical/technical distinctions, perhaps it is virus-related. But there are different definitions of what spam is, and I'm sure it fits some of them. I didn't really want to get into a discussion of whether

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Sergeant
Sidney Markowitz said the following on 22/10/02 17:43: Milt Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are different definitions of what spam is, and I'm sure it fits some of them. [...] appears to the person receiving the mail, it looks like spam and can be dealt with as if it were spam. It

RE: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Steve Thomas
| Both contain goldfish in the subject, one is just plain goldfish | and one is Fw: goldfish. | | Both have attachments, one is application/octet-stream, one is | audio/x-midi. | | Both say: | | Hi Dear | Check the attach | See u It's a virus:

[SAtalk] spamc exitcode

2002-10-22 Thread David Kelly
Am wanting to create a procmail filter where spamassassin is allowed to markup and deliver spam as it is wont to do by default, but additionally would like to drop a totally unaltered copy in another mailbox. Ever since I let spamassassin run away and consume all my swap space when fetchmail was

Re: [SAtalk] [Off Topic] Procmail help

2002-10-22 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Josh Trutwin wrote: # All other mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set # threshold) is tagged as Probably SPAM :0 fBw * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes | formail -i Subject: Warning: Message Probably SPAM Why do you have B in the :0 line? That means to match the

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Sidney Markowitz wrote: Milt Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are different definitions of what spam is, and I'm sure it fits some of them. [...] appears to the person receiving the mail, it looks like spam and can be dealt with as if it were spam. It

Re: [SAtalk] [Off Topic] Procmail help

2002-10-22 Thread Josh Trutwin
# All other mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set # threshold) is tagged as Probably SPAM :0 fBw * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes | formail -i Subject: Warning: Message Probably SPAM Why do you have B in the :0 line? That means to match the Body of the message against the

Re: [SAtalk] Where can i find answers regarding SA installation problems ?

2002-10-22 Thread Rene Verharen
Hi all, At 21-10-2002 14:24 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: the answer: read the INSTALL file. You probably got no answers because this is exact issue is directly explained in that file. It doesn't say anything about my specific error... So if you still have problems after you read the fine

RE: [SAtalk] [Off Topic] Procmail help

2002-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
I've seen this same question asked many times here. And I'm an SATALK noob! Can we add a section in the FAQ in big bright neon letters that says how to do just this? Or as Josh mentioned, place it in the example under big blinking monkeys :) How to remove high scoring spam and mark up low

RE: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Chris Santerre
How would the term 'goldfish' score in the corpus? :) There isn't much to key off of in the email itself. Very short. Heck, virus writers could just make viruses with common, non spam realted words in them. (Goldfish, spoon, eclipse, hoceky, monkeychow,) Then you would be adding custom rules

[SAtalk] How to genearte $USER_HOME/.spamassassin

2002-10-22 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How do I generate this files...I'm running spamd with the -c option but their not being created. I have one user (mine) that has the .spamassassin directory but I think that's because I ran spamassassin as that user. I'm running spamd sitewide

RE: [SAtalk] How to generate $USER_HOME/.spamassassin

2002-10-22 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Figured it outmy procmailrc file had: :0fw | spamc -u USER_I_HAD_SETUP_THE_SYSTEM_WITH just chaged it to :0fw |spamc and all is good. Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key 0xD1B9D18E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SAtalk] SQL and auto whitelists

2002-10-22 Thread Jeffrey Wheat
Is there any way to use auto whitelists with an sql database instead of dbm? Thanks, Jeff --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/2002

[SAtalk] [Announce] Undertaker v. 0.6.0

2002-10-22 Thread Michel Bouissou
Hello, I'm pleased to announce the release of Undertaker v. 0.6.0 under GPL license. It can be downloaded from: https://www.bouissou.net/wws/d_read/spamcombat/Undertaker/ Undertaker is a spam and mail viruses processing system based on procmail, and compatable with any Un*x system that uses

Re: [SAtalk] SQL and auto whitelists

2002-10-22 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 16:53, Jeffrey Wheat wrote: Is there any way to use auto whitelists with an sql database instead of dbm? there's a bug in Bugzilla about it (from 2.2 days), that Craig hasn't done yet. Thanks, Jeff --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG

RE: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Milt Epstein
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Steve Thomas wrote: [ ... ] | Thanks for any help/suggestions you can offer. You *could* use procmail or even create a rule in SA to filter these, but you really should be using some sort of virus scanner and blocking the messages before delivery. SA is just a tool in

[SAtalk] English version of the Tests Performed?

2002-10-22 Thread Chris Markle
All, Is there an English version of the Tests Performed as seen at: http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html ? Various Description of Test entries in the table at that URL are in foreign languages so it's not easy for us gringo's to be able to tell what the test does. tyia. Chris

Re: [SAtalk] help with goldfish

2002-10-22 Thread Suzanne Skinner
Milt Epstein wrote: Anyway, I wanted to see if I could get help dealing with one repeating annoying spam message. Actually, I think the message is coming from a virus (i.e. machines that have been infected with the virus), but it seems the message can be dealt with as if it were spam. I'm

[SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread Steffen Evers
Hi! Using 2.42 (Debian testing package on woody) AWL seems not to work the way it supposed to be: I have removed the AWL files in order to reset the AWL data. Than I have piped through the same spam message (9.50 hits, 5 required) several times with 'spamassassin -a spam-mail

Re: [SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:08:47AM +0200, Steffen Evers wrote: But it does exactlly the opposite: AWL gives -5.0 points, so it is no longer recognized as spam! Is this an intended behaviour? Yes... sort of. It WAS intended behaviour at the time. But we are wiser now, and that change was

Re: [SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread joe
On October 22, 2002 06:26 pm, Duncan Findlay wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:08:47AM +0200, Steffen Evers wrote: But it does exactlly the opposite: AWL gives -5.0 points, so it is no longer recognized as spam! Is this an intended behaviour? Yes... sort of. It WAS intended behaviour at

RE: [SAtalk] English version of the Tests Performed?

2002-10-22 Thread Michael Moncur
Is there an English version of the Tests Performed as seen at: http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html ? Various Description of Test entries in the table at that URL are in foreign languages so it's not easy for us gringo's to be able to tell what the test does. tyia. Weird, it looks like a

Re: [SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 06:58:31PM -0700, joe wrote: On October 22, 2002 06:26 pm, Duncan Findlay wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:08:47AM +0200, Steffen Evers wrote: But it does exactlly the opposite: AWL gives -5.0 points, so it is no longer recognized as spam! Is this an

RE: [SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread Michael Moncur
Hmm? I upgraded to 2.43 the day it was released and noticed all my spam email was being let through after about 2 weeks. I run spamd with the -a (autowhitelist optio) on. I have since turned off the auto-whitelist option and everything works fine since. Version 2.43 definitely fixed

Re: [SAtalk] AWL problem ...

2002-10-22 Thread joe
On October 22, 2002 07:17 pm, Michael Moncur wrote: Hmm? I upgraded to 2.43 the day it was released and noticed all [snip] It sounds like your particular situation isn't one where autowhitelisting will do much good. My conclusion too. I use tmda to handle my 1-1 type correspondence and

[SAtalk] spamd uses a lot of CPU

2002-10-22 Thread dmarie-spamassasin
hi list i am maintaining a site-wide setup of spamassassin. we dont have any problems with the CPU load when there are not much mails received by the server. however, once the mails received go higher than 50 at one time, the CPU load shoots up to 90% or higher. and when this happens the

Re: [SAtalk] A Bunch of Dumb questions

2002-10-22 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 10:26:16PM -0500, Mike Loiterman wrote: Razor2 is installed and running correctly, according to the log, how do I turn off the Razor1 checks? score RAZOR_CHECK 0 Also I get this error: debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: header

Re: [SAtalk] spamd uses a lot of CPU

2002-10-22 Thread Scott Lambert
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 05:35:20AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi list however, once the mails received go higher than 50 at one time, the CPU load shoots up to 90% or higher. and when this happens the mail server becomes very slow and sometimes users complain that they are not able to

Re: [SAtalk] spamd uses a lot of CPU

2002-10-22 Thread tgwilt
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[SAtalk] How to question

2002-10-22 Thread Don Stafford
We have SA running successfully on RH 7.3 and it is doing a terrific job. However, I havea question. The two files that are created, almost-certainly-spam and probably-spam, most of the time, contain emails that are not spam and need to be distributed to the intended receipients. Is there an

Re: [SAtalk] How SA tests scores have got

2002-10-22 Thread Tanel Kokk
Matt Kettler wrote: The SpamAssassin scores are evolved using a genetic algorithm against a test corpus of hand-sorted spam and nonspam messages. The test corpus actually consisted of 168,612 messages last time the GA was run. If you look in the rules directory of the tarball you can see the

Re: [SAtalk] How to change SA settings in perl scripts

2002-10-22 Thread Tanel Kokk
Tanel Kokk wrote: I have SA(v2.43)+MIMEDefang(v2.22) on relay server (it means no mailboxes on that server). Right now I have system-wide AWL feature enabled, But my purpose is to implement AWL feature per address. Is there any possibility to set up auto-whitelist parameters

Re: [SAtalk] spamd run time error.

2002-10-22 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:01:26 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try to run spamd, got following error: Can't locate syslog.ph in @INC (did you run h2ph?) (@INC contains: ../lib /us r/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris /usr/perl5/5.00503 /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4 -solaris

[SAtalk] howto install

2002-10-22 Thread Vasco Macaringue
I'm using freebsd4.2.6 release and sendmail 8.12.3 I'd like to know how to install spamassassin 2.43 I'd like also to know if it is necessary to have mimedefang to install spamassassin for a system Thanx for help --- This sf.net emial is

RE: [SAtalk] user_prefs with spamd?

2002-10-22 Thread Mike Loiterman
12:37 AM To: Mike Loiterman Subject: Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs with spamd? * Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20021022 02:23]: wrote: # Start daemon. [ -x /usr/bin/spamd ] /usr/bin/spamd -dac echo -n ' spamd' I am not sure but I think you should try spamd -d -a -c

Re: [SAtalk] Two tests

2002-10-22 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Tuesday 22 October 2002 04:06, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Kjetil Kjernsmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have two rules that is not in my Spamassassin, so I thought I'd share them. Could you please submit your rule suggestion as a bug report? That goes for everyone. :-) Cool, will do! If

[SAtalk] Using spamc/spamd for aliases

2002-10-22 Thread David
Dear gurus, I use spamc/spamd for my local accounts, and it works perfect. My simple question is how to use spamc/spamd for aliases. I do alot of forwarding from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and some of the aliases are heavily spammed. Do the accounts have to be local? If I set up a

Re: [SAtalk] How to change SA settings in perl scripts

2002-10-22 Thread Justin Mason
Tanel Kokk said: Tanel Kokk wrote: I have SA(v2.43)+MIMEDefang(v2.22) on relay server (it means no mailboxes on that server). Right now I have system-wide AWL feature enabled, But my purpose is to implement AWL feature per address. Is there any possibility to set up auto-whitelist