Re: [SAtalk] Backhair FP

2004-01-31 Thread Matthew Trent
On Friday 30 January 2004 11:17 am, Jennifer Wheeler wrote: > My bad. I just posted a change to body rule with the set, but it has to > be rawbody. I realized this as soon as I hit send. (oops) Now... I > don’t know if rawbody looks at the headers... ?? If that doesn't fix > it, I wouldn't kno

Re: [SAtalk] FP for FAKE_HELO_YAHOO ?

2004-01-31 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pedro Sam writes: >Hi all, > >I received the following mail from a yahoo web mail user, but the >FAKE_HELO_YAHOO keeps on hitting. Is this a false positive? The problem is this: > Received: from 216.136.128.122 (HELO web10409.mail.yahoo.com) (216.

[SAtalk] Missed V word spam

2004-01-31 Thread Andrew_Hoying
Hello, I haven't seen one like this before. It got through with a pretty low score. The body looked like this: -- Men Men Men Vye agrah corrects erection problem in minutes You will be able to have sex *AGAIN* like a 20 year old young man! Guaranteed and recognized throughout the world SAT

Re: [SAtalk] Failed to make libsnp.a

2004-01-31 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Peggy Kam wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install SpamAssassin 2.63 under SunOS 5.9 by making > libsnp.a; however, I keep encountering the following error: > > gcc -I. -c -o snprintf.o snprintf.c > snprintf.c: In function `__uqtoa': > snprintf.c:183: error: conversion to no

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-31 Thread Gary Schrock
At 02:15 PM 1/30/2004, Sloan, Craig wrote: >Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it >deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod >are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and >lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a >total mses and you can sitll raed it wout

Re: [SAtalk] FP for FAKE_HELO_YAHOO ?

2004-01-31 Thread Pedro Sam
On January 30, 2004 14:06, Justin Mason wrote: > Normally there's a "delivery *from* yahoo" step, which works fine, but > that doesn't seem to be the case here. are you POPping it directly from > Yahoo!? I see... I use YahooPops to "download" mail from yahoo via the http protocol. (instead of th

Re: [SAtalk] Can someone explain this?

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:42 AM 1/30/2004, Chris Barnes wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=5.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_WEB_BUGS,LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_80,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.61 It met the required hit total (exactly) to be classified as spam. No, the _round

RE: [SAtalk] SPAMD stops tagging spam?

2004-01-31 Thread Martin, Jeffrey
Dan, What happens if you manually run a mail through with spamc? We saw this sort of problem when spamd was taking too long and spamc timed out and returned the mail unprocessed. We resolved it by using the -t flag with spamc. -Original Message- From: Dan O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[SAtalk] interesting subject masking

2004-01-31 Thread Luka Z. Gerzic
Take a look at this subject masking: Original subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?T3Zlcm5pZ2h0IERlbGl2ZXJ5IC0gWW91IGdldCBtb3JlIGZvciBsZXNzIQ==? = Un-masked subject: Overnight delivery - you get more for less! Any suggestions for regex? --- D r e n i k N e t w o r k s / S e r b i a / B e l g r a d

RE: [SAtalk] Can someone explain this?

2004-01-31 Thread Matthew . van . Eerde
I believe the idea is right but your example is wrong. 4.92 rounds to 4.9, not to 5.0 It may have been any number between 4.95 and 4...., say 4.983 > I think the hits= is a rounded number. So it may have been > 4.92 for example. > > >>> "Chris Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/30/04 11:42AM >

[SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2004-01-31 Thread Kareem Dana
Hello, I use spamassassin 2.54 and just turned on bayesian filtering. I saved over 1000 recent spams and hams and trained the filter on those emails. However, when an email is scored with BAYES_99 it is only get a 3.0 from that hit. I know I can maunally change the score of BAYES_99 but I'm wond

[SAtalk] moving sa-talk to apache?

2004-01-31 Thread Justin Mason
Folks -- given the *massive* numbers of issues with this list in its current home, I suggest we may be better off moving it to Apache.org sooner rather than later. Currently, our status in Apache is that we are in the Incubator there, which means that the list has an @incubator.apache.org suffix,

[SAtalk] list laggin again?

2004-01-31 Thread JRiley
what is up with the SA list? Seems like its choking a lot more frequently lately. JR --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. Februar

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Another v word got through

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
Sweet.. thanks man, I've been meaning to run mass-check on it myself.. I've been wondering about the FPs in the MALEDYSFUNCTION rules.. it's obvious all the FPs hit both it and obfu, which is weird. I've had several technical mails hit, but upon trying to re-test them and get them to hit, they

[SAtalk] Spamassassin2.63 breaks w/amavisd-new (Was: Perl -T switch)

2004-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Alex Satrapa wrote: > MMoose wrote: > > What I'd like to know is what are the real > > implications of removing this switch? > > removing the taint-checking means that you no longer have any checks in > place to prevent malicious parties from tricking the program into > execu

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-31 Thread scion+spamas
From: Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:10:43 -0800 >Some of these spams are *so* mixed up that I have absolutely no idea >what they're even trying to hawk in the first place. It might as well be >written in Klingon. I just put up a private webmail for our clients.

[SAtalk] Re: Spamd don't start

2004-01-31 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:03:33PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > I have installed Spamassassin 2.61-2 on Debian Sarge, but I can't get > the daemon to run. Running "/etc/init.d/spamassassin start" does not > complain about any error, but nothing happens. > > There is no spamd process running. I

[SAtalk] poll: still faked Habeas headers?

2004-01-31 Thread guenther
Hey folks, Like a most of you I have received a lot af SPAM mails with faked Habeas headers. Thus I adjusted the HABEAS_SWE rule and excluded their headers from Bayes. I haven't seen those SPAMs for days now -- thus I wonder if those adjustments are still justified. My question to you fellow SPA

[SAtalk] A plan, with some feeback desiered

2004-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
All, I think I've seen this discussed before, but I can't seem to find it in the archives. I'm running SA on a FreeBSD/Postfix box, and I'm interested in starting a second instance of postfix. The SA box is only an inbound gateway for my Exchange 5.5 server, and what I want to do is run all of m

Re: [SAtalk] A simple tool to extract URL's from mail folders

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Roberts
Is this a moderated list? It sure is taking a while to get updates here lately. I am an ISP and I would be happy to donate the use of our list server for the list if it was not too massive a list. Email turn arounds for the lists that I already host average from 10-60 seconds. I am not intereste

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin2.63 breaks w/amavisd-new (Was: Perl -T switch)

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Moore
I know Razor2 needed patching to work with SA 2.6x, I'm not sure about Pyzor or DCC though. You could simply disable those within your SA config for the time being. Ryan Moore -- Perigee.net Corporation 704-849-8355 (sales) 704-849-8017 (tech) www.perigee.net Marc G. Fournier wrote: On

Re: [SAtalk] SPAMD stops tagging spam?

2004-01-31 Thread WA9ALS - John
> Yesterday, at approximately 5:20pm, my server stopped filtering spam... it > just decided to happily pass it along to its intended recipient. All the > processes appeared to be running. /var/log/maillog shows calls to spamd, > and it responding to connections, just doesn't seem to be doing any

RE: [SAtalk] Re: W32.Novarg.A@mm virus

2004-01-31 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How is the resource useage with clamav? I'm tempted to install it, but > the cpus on that server are already pretty stressed just dealing with > spamc (I already offloaded spamd to another box) and everything else it > has to do, and am hesitant to

[SAtalk] Can't locate object method "init_learner" via package...

2004-01-31 Thread Technical Services
Whenever I try to run sa-learn --spam /path/to/dir i get the following error Can't locate object method "init_learner" via package "Mail::SpamAssassin" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/CmdLearn.pm line 163. Can anyone help me please? I cant figure out what the problem is

[SAtalk] [OT] Working with FPs from the other end.

2004-01-31 Thread Russell Mann
> -Original Message- > Now he has re-written how the mail is sent and most scores under 5. > > However those mails that score over 5 seem to always score 5.07 > and boy that > has him wound up. This is why I started using SA on my server. A customer forwarded their SA output headers to me

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin2.63 breaks w/amavisd-new (Was: Perl -T switch)

2004-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:24:57PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Pyzor -> check failed: Insecure $ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at > > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 870. > > DCC -> check failed: Insec

Re: [SAtalk] Spamc fails, but spamassassin works

2004-01-31 Thread James Ervin
This ended up being a local firewall issue that I have resolved. Thanks for looking. At 10:21 AM 1/28/2004, James Ervin wrote: I have two mail servers running spamassassin. One has spamd running and uses: # send mail through spamassassin :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc This works and I get a nice log in

Re: [SAtalk] cannot expire bayes

2004-01-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:18:06PM -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: > these are all mails that get learned about 30 days after being stored on > the system. Basically people have 30 days to clean up their mail.. if > not a FP, then we learn it as spam. So all learned mail is about 30 > days old to the

[SAtalk] a quick and dirty example ?

2004-01-31 Thread Spyros Tsiolis
Hello people, lots of chatting with Mr. Don, the kind guru behind sa_filter, has revealed that I need to do a lot of studying. However, I was wondering if there is a chance of getting an example from any chaps out there using SpamAssassin and sa_filter maybe ??? Any takers ? any help welcome,

Re: [SAtalk] Installation failure

2004-01-31 Thread Klaus Heinz
Peggy wrote: > I have posted this message earlier, however, for some strange reasons, it was > never posted. Here it is again: I think I saw your question on this list before. > I am trying to install SpamAssassin 2.63 under SunOS 5.9 by making libsnp.a; Why do you try to build libsnp.a on

Re: [SAtalk] moving sa-talk to apache?

2004-01-31 Thread Rick Macdougall
Top Post, sue me. Fine with me. Rick Justin Mason wrote: Folks -- given the *massive* numbers of issues with this list in its current home, I suggest we may be better off moving it to Apache.org sooner rather than later. Currently, our status in Apache is that we are in the Incubator there, wh

fwd: [SAtalk] CBL?

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Wilder
Looks like the list server is having some difficulty. I could swear this post of mine appeared previously. Analysis of the "Received" headers indicates this copy was substantially delayed within Sourceforge. Wish I'd kept the previous copy which I believe I received from SF. - Forwarded mes

Re: [SAtalk] suid and spamc

2004-01-31 Thread Keith Olmstead
Thanks for the help and reply, but I still am unable to run spamc without having the SUID bit set. I created a user and group spamd and added the following to my start scipt: spamd -d -a -c -u spamd -D and still nothing. I put the nessary files in /etc/mail/spamassassin and changed ownership

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] Justified text

2004-01-31 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Regis, Monday, January 26, 2004, 1:56:56 PM, you wrote: RW> Got some new variants on the "justified text" ratware. By going to 66 chars, RW> they have slipped through the rule. So I've fixed it up a bit. Please test RW> and let me know, etc. I split your rule into multiple, each with a

[SAtalk] ShortMsgid

2004-01-31 Thread Robert Menschel
Had a spate of unwanted emails, apparently empty body, very short message ids. Built a set of rules: headerRM_hm_ShortMsgid06 Message-ID =~ /^.{1,6}$/ describe RM_hm_ShortMsgid06 Message ID is too short to be valid. Possible spam/virus sign score RM_hm_ShortMsgid06 0.800 #

[SAtalk] multiple headers

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Hi List. I have a client who sends mail to me ia a SpamAssassin server. I receive the mail via My SA server but I am getting wierd results in the headers. Is there a way to disable scans on mails that have been scanned already? Regards, Tom Kinghorn -

Re: [SAtalk] how to change the bayes auto_learn threshold to zero

2004-01-31 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Jan 28 23:01:48 2004, Brett Dikeman wrote: > > Martin Radford wrote: > > > It might be because you get the occasional false positive that you > > want to avoid (but all the rest come under your threshold). You > > probably would want these autolearned as ham. > > Actually, at the moment

[SAtalk] weird maillog entry

2004-01-31 Thread Mailing Lists
Just happened to be browsing my maillog and came across this. Anyone know whats going on here? Does this mean Digest::SHA1cant be found, or it is obsolete and I need to update it? Jan 30 14:35:23 mail spamd[14427]: Use of inherited AUTOLOAD for non-method Digest::SHA1::sha1_hex() is deprecate

Re: [SAtalk] Bigevil and thoughts....

2004-01-31 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Jennifer Wheeler wrote: > > 'Bigevil.cf' -- never once seen in ham. > > 'Maybeevil.cf' -- a small number of hits in ham Here's a suggestion: Rather than try to filter into two files, leave Bigevil as-is. Place questionable domains that appear in Bigevil into another file (I

Re: [SAtalk] autolearning spam as ham?

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:59 AM 1/30/2004, PieterB wrote: Shouldn't a message that is identified as spam by the bayesian filter of spamassassin (BAYES_90 or BAYES_99 in my case) never be used as a message that is learned as ham? (I would expect it not to be used for learning because it wouldn't improve the bayesfilte

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2004-01-31 Thread Martin Radford
At Fri Jan 30 22:33:27 2004, Kareem Dana wrote: > > Hello, > > I use spamassassin 2.54 and just turned on bayesian filtering. I saved > over 1000 recent spams and hams and trained the filter on those emails. Well, you really ought to be using a later version than 2.54. The current version is 2

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-31 Thread Sloan, Craig
>Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it >deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod >are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and >lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a >total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. >Tihs is bcuseae the huam

Re: [SAtalk] Can someone explain this?

2004-01-31 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evan Platt writes: >> It met the required hit total (exactly) to be classified as spam. > >I think we need a FAQ entry for this - this is covered QUITE often. we have one. people don't read it ;) - --j. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:10 PM 1/30/2004, Bob George wrote: Are the spammers using some sort of filter to obscure the text into something consistently decipherable? The messages I'm seeing lately remind me of the 'haxor', 'jive', 'chef' and 'kraut' filters (http://www2.dystance.net:8080/software/talkfilters/). While