[SAtalk] Re: SA-procmail newbie

2004-01-27 Thread Bob Proulx
WA9ALS - John wrote: Today I made a procmail entry like this: :0 H * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/mail/caughtspam Fine. But H is the default and does not need to be specified. But it won't hurt if you do anyway. If caughtspam is a single file then you need to make that :0: with a trailing :

[SAtalk] Re: Ann: Rules De Jour: An automated way to keep up with the latest rulesets

2004-01-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Thielen wrote: Rules De Jour: An automated way to keep up with the latest rulesets. http://www.exit0.us/index.php/RulesDeJour # Get latest SpamAssassin rules. Runs at 4:28AM every day. 28 4 * * * /root/bin/rules_de_jour If this script becomes

[SAtalk] Re: The CAN-SPAM act....

2004-01-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Bart Schaefer wrote: (Expect to see a lot more spam with the date set 30 days in the past.) Fortunately those kinds of tricks are easy to check against. In fact for that particular thing I think there is already a rule for it. So I can only hope that spammers send mail that way. It would be

[SAtalk] Re: habeus

2004-01-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Gary Smith wrote: We did also report 4 emails to them recently (1 was questionable). We're still waiting a response. I have gotten automated responses with report numbers in the 109,000 range from every one that I have reported. They came within a couple of minutes. Bob pgp0.pgp

[SAtalk] Re: habeus

2004-01-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Gary Smith wrote: I'll have to have my guy check again. It's also possible that it's beeing sent to his spam bucket now... Just so you know what to look for, here is a sample response from Habeas. [I obsfucated my work address. I word wrapped their text. (They really should use

[SAtalk] OT: forged habeus mark

2004-01-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Chuck Peters wrote: Can someone explain why HABEAS_SWE -8.0 was allowed to happen? Robin Lynn Frank wrote: Shorter answer. Habeus rule is outahere. And many other people, not just these two, had the same sentiments. Which really saddens me. For years I have heard people say we need to do

[SAtalk] Re: problems with spamcop

2004-01-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Fritz Mesedilla wrote: How come I got this message from spamcop that I am sending spam? Based on the Mail relay test on abuse.net, I am clean. The spamcop report on this incident has been marked: This issue has already been reported as an innocent bystander. So I am not sure that any other

[SAtalk] Re: Checking URLs in email body against RBLs too?

2004-01-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Petri Koistinen wrote: I got just another spam advertising URL and started to wonder could SpamAssassin also check that URL's server against DNSBLs? Please CC: me, as I not on the list (yet). This has been discussed, and is one of the features that I personally would really like to see. Since

[SAtalk] Re: dictionary words in ascii part of mime

2004-01-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Alex Stade wrote: I run SpamAssassin 2.61 and it catches a lot of spam, but lately, there is spam getting through that has bare dictionary words in the ASCII part of a MIME message and all the usual junk in the multimedia part. When reading these e-mails in Outlook or something like that,

[SAtalk] Re: Re: Re: Subject contains username

2004-01-08 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/03/2004 11:52:41 AM: Who wrote that? I think you need to double check your quoting machinery! Subject: Bug 08378 was submitted by Bob Proulx Subject: Bob is out Friday/Monday Subject: TWiki - Registration for BobProulx

[SAtalk] Re: Rule gripe....

2004-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Carl R. Friend wrote: May I make an appeal, on behalf of everyone using FreePort, to re- think the wisdom of the /\d\d\@/ rule? Thanks for putting up with the foregoing rant and your patience. May I suggest that you get some non-spam samples of the above submitted into the mail corpus used

[SAtalk] Re: Re: Subject contains username

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
, etc. Being as my name is Bob I get a lot of that. :-) Well, I don't actually. I usually drive the lunch bus and so the mail is going the other direction. But here are some samples of what I do frequently get with my name in the subject. Subject: Bug 08378 was submitted by Bob Proulx

[SAtalk] Re: auto whitelist ADDS points?

2004-01-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Petersen wrote: The whitelist part is a misnomer. It's an automatic score adjuster (white/black-list if you want). I realize this. Just figure that the name should be more informative. It evolved into what it is today from being an autowhitelister previously and the same option and

[SAtalk] Re: SpamAssassin 2.61 wont install from CPAN on RHEL ES 3

2004-01-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Peter Kiem wrote: I am trying to install SpamAssassin via CPAN as I don't want to use Red Hat's 2.55 RPM. [...] I've filed a bug report with ExtUtils::MakeMaker but does anyone have any ideas how I can proceed? Yes. Don't install it from CPAN. It is better if your package manager knows

[SAtalk] Re: Resource conservation

2004-01-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Radford wrote: In your scenario, it sounds very much like you're already running procmail. In this case, the best method is to tell procmail not to call spamc/spamassassin if mail is from one of those lists. For example, my own .procmailrc looks like this: :0fw:spamassassin.lock

[SAtalk] Re: Re: Resource conservation

2004-01-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Robin Lynn Frank wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: It is better to look at the mailing list tags instead. [...] Here is a start at a common set of list tags which I think would be more suitable for this task. :0fw:spamassassin.lock * !^X-BeenThere: * !^X-Mailing-List: * !^Mailing-List

[SAtalk] Re: Resource conservation

2004-01-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Bryan Hoover wrote: HEADERTAG=From ADDRESSFILE=/usr/home/bhoover/listreply Use $MAILDIR here? ADDRESSFILE=$MAILDIR/listreply :0i HEADERTAGVAL=|$FORMAIL -zx$HEADERTAG | tr -d \n | tr -s * ? grep -i $HEADERTAGVAL $ADDRESSFILE I like it! Much more efficient than listing all of the

[SAtalk] Re: Problem with Zero points spam messages.

2003-12-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Dragoncrest wrote: Not sure what to make of this, but for some reason lately I've been getting some emails getting through with either zero points or very low points scores that are obvious spam. What you are observing is natural selection in action. All mail that is correctly tagged

[SAtalk] Re: Auto-learn bug

2003-12-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Theo Van Dinter wrote: There's been discussion about having to have both the original and recomputed score over/under the spam/ham autolearn score before it'll actually autolearn, but we haven't really done anything with that yet. I think that would be a good modification. Right now there are

[SAtalk] Re: rule modification

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
skumm wrote: How and where do i modify the rules relating to html in the message body? If it is there period i want marked as spam, so I want to change it's weight to something like 10 if html exists in the message In the beginning, techies designed spamassassin for themselves and HTML

[SAtalk] Re: False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Hello Lenny Lenny Schafer wrote: To Spamassassin: I am one of the users of Spamassassin. As with many things in the free software world it is a team effort and anyone who takes the time and effort to contribute are part of that team. Which means you often won't find any particular person who

[SAtalk] To: you Cc: friend -- New spammer trick?

2003-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
In the last month my girlfriend and I have been getting a number of spams which have been addressed To: me and Cc: to her. This seems to be a new spammer trick. Use not just a database of email addresses but a database of To: Cc: headers combined in an attempt to get through people's filters.

[SAtalk] Re: Wacky postmaster whitelist questions

2003-12-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Evan Platt wrote: Josh Endries wrote: I get a lot of postmaster emails, and I'm trying to whitelist them so they aren't marked as spam. How are you calling SpamAssassin? Why not just (assuming you're using procmail), create a procmail rule? Agreed. I use something like this. :0 *

[SAtalk] Re: Off topic: Threads

2003-11-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Terry Milnes wrote: This list seems to be worse than most though, go figure . More newbies here than elsewhere? BTW I see the thread stealing more and more lately. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[SAtalk] Re: Changed spammer technique ?

2003-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian Ipsen wrote: Consider the following headers: Received: from adsl-66-159-202-147.dslextreme.com (HELO andebakken.dk) (66.159.202.147) From: michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The spammer uses my own email address as sender to try to inject spam into my system For a

[SAtalk] OT: Postfix UCE config reference

2003-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
For the postfix user who is getting a lot of spam to them from spoofed them, here is a nice quick howto for configuring postfix to prevent that and to reject those messages at the MTA level. http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt Rejecting messages from me to me was significant at

[SAtalk] OT: Distributed Spamming Engine?

2003-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
A friend found an interesting occurance in his log files. Looking more closely we have found at least two cases of this. Basically here is the sequence at the end of this message. In a nutshell a not too common address got hit from one IP address, then a few seconds later from another IP

[SAtalk] Re: -a flag (awl on by default)

2003-10-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Justin Mason wrote: Er, Matt, it is the default ;) There's now a use_auto_whitelist config setting and -a does nothing. Just noting that the README file in CVS still needs to catch up then. http://spamassassin.rediris.es/full/2.7x/dist/README This functionality is off by default, and

[SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Bill Polhemus wrote: I really would prefer to implement something as complex as SA through the RPMs on my Red Hat 9 system. So far, they are only up to SA 2.55. That has worked fine up until recently, when the HTML obfuscation has begun cropping up. Perhaps 2.60 can fix that. Any idea when

[SAtalk] Re: procmail unable to write

2003-10-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Dan Doucette (Dano) wrote: I'm getting an error message in just one of my user's procmail logs. The error is; 'procmail: Error while writing to caughtspam' That is really a procmail question not a spamassassin question. Does your syslog and/or maillog say anything interesting? Usually

[SAtalk] Re: Received from local machine score

2003-09-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Rod wrote: Is it possible to tell SA that mail coming from machine X on local network is not From local machine ? -50 LOCAL_RCVD Received from local machine Where is that rule coming from? I am running 2.60 and just checked 2.55 and I can't find that rule anywhere. A

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Jon Gabrielson wrote: Here is my procmail rule: :0B * Content-Type: application|Content-Type: audio * name=.*.pif|name=.*.scr|name=.*.exe|name=.*.com /tmp/viruses Thanks for sharing that. But also a nit. '.' matches any character. So '.*.' is the same as '.*'. You probably wanted to

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael W. Cocke wrote: Just FYI, AOL is doing reverse DNS and won't accept incoming email if they don't approve of the sending IP address.. as in, they won't accept messages from my domain because I use dyndns and not a static IP. It is probably not that you don't have reverse DNS. It is

Re: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Apthorpe wrote: Richard Ahlquist wrote: The only gotchyas are how to maintain it. Who decides who is on it and when they come off. Balancing anonymity and trust is difficult ... I prefer the benevolent dictator approach, where I get to choose and to ignore the dictators of my choice.

Re: Debian stable backport (was: [SAtalk] Trademark improperly used in deceptive ad?)

2003-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote: Adam D. Barratt wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I assume you found Duncan's backport area? Just making sure. deb http://people.debian.org/~duncf/debian/ woody main That only appears to include 2.54. If you review what changed between 2.54 and 2.55 you will find

Debian stable backport (was: [SAtalk] Trademark improperly used in deceptive ad?)

2003-08-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Chuck Peters wrote: I was having a minor problem with spamassassin 2.53 (OSIRUSOFT) and decided to do a search for backports of Debian stable (Google spamassassin site:people.debian.org) ... I assume you found Duncan's backport area? Just making sure. deb

Re: Debian stable backport (was: [SAtalk] Trademark improperly used in deceptive ad?)

2003-08-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Adam D. Barratt wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I assume you found Duncan's backport area? Just making sure. deb http://people.debian.org/~duncf/debian/ woody main That only appears to include 2.54. If you review what changed between 2.54 and 2.55 you will find that there is no functional

Re: [SAtalk] kernel panics and the .spamassassin/bayes_ stuff

2003-08-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Alex J. Avriette wrote: The MX chewed and chewed and chewed, but eventually OpenBSD's otherwise fairly stable kernel panicked. I suppose it can be forgiven for this, as the load was around 30 as it processed many emails, each one launching its own sa process, which then tried to read the

Re: [SAtalk] joe-jobs anyone?

2003-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Erick Calder wrote: I'm getting a bunch of mails from MAILER-DAEMONs around the world complaining mostly that [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist. these are generated by dictionary spammers who are using my e-mail address for the reply-to header. Are you sure they are spammers? I am getting

Re: [SAtalk] Re: forged From: check?

2003-08-19 Thread Bob Proulx
alan premselaar wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I would rather do this all within SA, though, since that is already hooked into the mail flow. how do you have SA imeplemented at your site? this sounds like something that's easily done with MIMEDefang (as a matter of fact, i have a routine in my

[SAtalk] Re: forged From: check?

2003-08-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Matt Kettler wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] example.com whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mymachine.example.com where mymachine.example.com is some internal machine that spam won't arrive from, but outbound nonspam will? Unfortunately there are many

Re: [SAtalk] [SA talk] Little OT: getting my outgoing mail blocked for no reverse dns

2003-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Thomas wrote: Indii wrote: My email server is a debian box while my dns server is an MS 2000 server. Which would i need to setup the reverse dns on and how would i go about doing this? This is not something upon which the OS matters. It is out of your control, unless they delgate

[SAtalk] dorkslayers offline again (was: Why are there 4 scores?)

2003-08-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Peter Campion-Bye wrote: You can see which rbls SA is using by putting a line in your SA config file such as: 'timelog_path /var/spool/spamassassin' (make sure the Part of the file will look like this below: Sweet! 3.000: Starting RBL tests (will wait up to 30 secs before giving up)

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Blaise wrote: I only use DCC but in my experience, I've never heard of it rating non-spam bulk mail that I or anyone at my company has ever cared about; it's always been spam. As a result I push the score way up at 10. Just remember that DCC makes no claims about spaminess of

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Please, one posting of the same message is enough. Michael W. Cocke wrote: Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing list? DCC does not stop any mail. It only lists email which other people received thereby rendering a ruling on the bulk aspect of it. All you know is

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Simon Byrnand wrote: Why would anyone submit the SA list to DCC ? The only people receiving the SA list should be people who subscribed to it, and would have no reason to go submitting it to DCC, so I don't follow your reasoning... I don't know how to make this sound less quib than just by

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Ian Douglas wrote: Daniel Carrera wrote: Like wise we can go on with more consonants: score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 score MY_CONSONANT_5 0.30 score MY_CONSONANT_6 0.60 score MY_CONSONANT_7 1.20 score MY_CONSONANT_8 2.40 Dumb question from a rules newb: does

Re: [SAtalk] Long list of rules that must be broken

2003-07-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Pat Traynor wrote: If this is a clueless newbie question, please just give me a few mild slaps. I agree with the other comment that this is a procmail question. But since you asked... :0 * ^Subject.*lueberry*|\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]|\ ^Subject.*Business directory addition request*|\

Re: [SAtalk] Naughty test names

2003-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick Beebe wrote: I'd like to appeal to the SA collective to change the name of the PENIS_ENLARGE tests to something a little more innocuous. Apparently some people find it offensive to see it in their email. I think almost everyone who responded missed the real problem here. And quite

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin supported??

2003-06-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Matt Kettler wrote: However, I'm not sure what version of perl redhat 6.2 has.. It might be below the minimum requirements of SA.. (5.005 is supported last I heard, but may not be supported soon as the developers are having a hard time making code that runs under 5.005 and modern

Re: [SAtalk] Slightly OT: Arguments needed for not replying to spam

2003-06-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Please don't thread steal. You replied to an existing thread of conversation and changed the subject line. That is impolite. Now your message right in the middle of Martin Bene's thread about Learning from forwarded mail. How are they related? Many people won't even read your message because

Re: [SAtalk] Why is this lists Reply-To: Header set to the wrong address?

2003-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Aaron wrote: When I reply, it goes to the from address, which is the person who sent it. I have to type in the list address by hand (I know... How sad is that?) I use Outlook 2003 beta ... Since Outlook is missing list reply functionality you might find it easier to do a group followup to

Re: [SAtalk] Which version of Red Hat?

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: All I was mentioning was that 6.2 was the most stable of rhat I've used. Of the Red Hat releases 6.2 was the best they ever had. debian, though there has not been setup a method to get spamassassin current for stable or testing, so it has less accessibility

Re: [SAtalk] They know when you've been sleeping...

2003-03-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Jay Levitt wrote: Somehow, the spammers have correlated my two entirely unrelated domains. Anyone else seen this? It does not surprise me. It would be easy to do. Look at the MX records for those addresses and correlate any that have the same mail exchanger. Bob pgp0.pgp Description:

Re: email quoting (was: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email. This is directed to tony@svanstrom.com)

2003-01-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Nick Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-01-13 01:49:25 -0600]: From: Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Nick I am sending this in the hopes that it will be taken constructively and not as an attempt at abuse. Perhaps these references will be of use. Shrug. Conversational quoting

Re: [SAtalk] blacklists, razor2, dcc or none?

2003-01-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Theo Van Dinter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-01-09 15:02:25 -0500]: Stats since 2002-12-09 Scores: 0.7 19 45 Total Messages: 4213 SA Caught : 4102(97.4 %) Razor Caught : 3237(76.8 %) Razor Not SA : 1 (0.0 %) Razor Cause SA: 87 (2.1 %) Very nice. I checked my

Re: [SAtalk] date -R an anachronism?

2002-12-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-30 23:33:43 +0100]: From RFC 2822: month-name = Jan / Feb / Mar / Apr / May / Jun / Jul / Aug / Sep / Oct / Nov / Dec Apparently

Re: [SAtalk] What if a Spammer uses my email address in the From?

2002-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-16 16:24:21 -0500]: 3) In fact, if you can avoid it, don't ever use a simple whitelist_from, and always use a whitelist_from_rcvd whenever possible. This closes a LOT of loopholes like the one you found here. Hmm... Which version of SA supports

Re: [SAtalk] OT: Reply-To headers (was: No tag?)

2002-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 23:57:48 -0500]: On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:56:23PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: If you really want people to reply on-list your should add a Reply-To header that contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your outbound messages. Note this is not Reply-To

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin-talk digest, Vol 1 #811 - 12 msgs

2002-12-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Eric Whiting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-07 14:21:24 -0700]: Scott Serr wrote: Got a Maxtor RMA. I'm thinking I'd like to try the Seagates next Sorry to hear the news. I guess I need to get a backup in place for my maxtor. It is easy to bash the drive you have that has failed. But

Re: [SAtalk] Nigerian scam mutation

2002-11-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Here's the latest in nigerian scam mutations. This one only scored a 3.0 (SA 2.43). And yet another variation. At least it is different than the ones I usually see. Bob From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 27 08:30:48 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received:

Re: [SAtalk] wierd results from DNSBL lookups?

2002-11-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-24 14:56:16 +]: has anyone seen DNSBL lookups in SpamAssassin returning bizarre results, like real IP addresses being returned instead of the usual 127.0.0.n? Verystrange. Never seen that. I've just received a report of this, and it strikes me as

Re: [SAtalk] PGP test

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-18 22:03:39 -0500]: Whoa. GPG/PGP signitures used to carry a -50 or so! What's the line of thinking here? I've never once recieved a signed piece of spam that was signed. OTOH, I've recieved lots of real signed mail. Has this rule been exploited?

Re: [SAtalk] removing markup from a whole mbox?

2002-11-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Eric Sandeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-10 09:46:03 -0600]: Hi, I see that spamassassin -d will remove markup from a single message, but is there a good way to remove spamassassin markup from an entire mbox? formail -s spamassassin -d mailbox-tagged mailbox-untagged And to take an entire

Re: [SAtalk] Broken MIME in tagged messages

2002-11-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-08 14:52:08 +0100]: I've come across a pretty serious problem, but I'm not sure if SA or qmail-scanner is to blame. The problem is that messages (incorrectly) tagged as spam gets their MIME headers broken somehow. The end result is that the MIME stuff

Re: [SAtalk] Base64 decoding issue...

2002-11-08 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-08 16:56:06 -0800]: I'm currently running SpamAssassin 2.43 + Razor 2.20 + Postfix 1.1.11 and having some issues regarding base64 encoded mail. SA doesn't seem to be handling this mail properly as it is leaving the message body in an encoded

Re: [SAtalk] SA and RBL usage

2002-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Thomas Nyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-07 19:59:27 +0100]: As far as I can tell Spamassassin uses RBL?s by default. Is there anyway I can check and see if SA does RBL checks?? Run a message through spamassassin with -Dt and see if it uses the checks in the header. | spamassassin -Dt If

Re: [SAtalk] Well written spam advertising how to spam

2002-11-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Radford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-02 20:27:54 +]: At Sat Nov 2 19:31:56 2002, Christian Salzer wrote: Just wondering, why SA-Talk mails, which contains quoted spam are reported to razor? People auto-reporting to Razor based solely on the SA score, rather than actually

Re: [SAtalk] Well written spam advertising how to spam

2002-11-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Jan Korger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-02 22:04:49 +0100]: Anyway, the spam that Bob forwarded was going to be marked as spam no matter how you handled the SA headers! He said it was assigned a score of 42.5 when he originally received it. 42.5. He said so, but this must have included

Re: [SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-29 06:38:32 -0500]: Do you know what the no such file or directory refers to which I got when I tried spamassassin -r -D ? It would help if you shared the error message you are seeing with the list. Otherwise the best anyone could say is that you are

Re: [SAtalk] Perspectives on (not) using SA

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Did you read the original article? He claims to be _more_ accurate than SA while still doing header-content-only tests (not DNSbl). Of course, I don't know whether that includes blocking IP ranges with a private list. I have seen a lot of claims that filter brand X is accurate at a some

Re: [SAtalk] How is Bayes working out for people?

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-29 12:27:58 -0800]: Who else is using the Bayesian classifier from the current 2.50-cvs? What kind of results is it giving you? [...] Not bad, but not as good as I'd hoped. I don't have any good data such as you have collected. But so far I am

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin -P works, spamc doesn't

2002-10-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Kaushik Mallick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-24 16:11:33 -0600]: htmldiv style='background-color:'DIVSorry, I am not sure why the body of my last post didn't show, so I am repeating this./DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV It is probably because you are posting messages to a public list as HTML. That is not

Re: [SAtalk] different results at diff times

2002-10-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Aram Mirzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-13 11:59:01 -0400]: I have a piece of SPAM that is jumping from 0.8 to 5.0 and back to 0.8 each time I ran a (-t) test without any modifications to my pref file. The offending rules that change are: X_OSIRU_SPAMWARE_SITE to X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC and

Re: [SAtalk] slipped through..

2002-10-11 Thread Bob Proulx
matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-11 17:06:00 -0400]: Really short spams are something SA alone isn't very good at. Fortunately systems like Razor are wonderful at them, and the DNS blacklists help too: While Razor is great still someone must get the spam first. Which is unfortunate. DNS

Re: [SAtalk] Another new trick?

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Arie Slob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-10 02:36:27 +0200]: Got this spam today: [...] You May Be closer (maybe hours away) To 'Financial' 'Freedom' If you needed '$24,000' in 24 Hours 'Click' 'Here' [...] As you can see, several phrases are enclosed in ' ' Unfortunately that is also a

Re: [SAtalk] Some spam values

2002-09-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Danita Zanre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-27 10:10:04 -0600]: As a totally off-topic aside - am I the only female who posts to this list? The last time I posted about a month ago someone referred to me as he - so I'm feeling very geeky g. Does mistaken identity have anything to do with being

Re: [SAtalk] Microsoft developer newsletter tagged as spam

2002-07-23 Thread Bob Proulx
PS I know my English isn't good, but... negative score added, can you really say that? Adding something negative... hmmm... Yes, that is perfectly legitimate. It is a math / accounting thing. You get a paycheck for $100. You get a bill for $20. You add them up. Some of the additions are

[SAtalk] audio/x-wav rule suggestion

2002-07-23 Thread Bob Proulx
I have been getting a lot of audio (Klez virus) files lately. There is not enough for SA to grip onto right now. Perhaps something like the following? body XWAV_IN_BODY /Content-Type:\s*audio\/x-wav/i describe XWAV_IN_BODY x-wav audio in body of mail score XWAV_IN_BODY

Re: [SAtalk] http://www.spamassassin.org

2002-07-21 Thread Bob Proulx
http://www.spamassassin.org Is anyone besides me having problems getting to the site? What site is that one? Isn't this site on sourceforge the official home page? http://spamassassin.sourceforge.net/ Bob msg07622/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [SAtalk] user_perfs

2002-07-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Question: Is this the correct way to code it? # Whitelist and blacklist addresses are now file-glob-style patterns, so # [EMAIL PROTECTED], *@isp.com, or *.domain.net will all work. whitelist_from *@freelotto.com whitelist_from *@luckysurf.com That looks correct to me and matches

Re: [SAtalk] RH 7.3 sa-milter install problems

2002-07-16 Thread Bob Proulx
1) the /etc/init.d/spamassassin script never seems to get launched on startup is there something else needed? Yes. There needs to be a symlink to the appropriate run level directory of /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S90spamassassin or similar. On RH systems that is usually placed by the 'chkconfig'

Re: [SAtalk] Setting up on SuSE

2002-07-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: Can someone send me a start/stop script for placement in /etc/init.d that works with SuSE 7.3? Since I am unfamiliar with SpamAssassin, I would prefer not writing this myself and potentially screwing up my mail system. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Re: [SAtalk] Verisign Domain Renewal Notice marked as spam

2002-07-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Hope nobody that admins domains etc. is dumping without looking at teh messages. My VeriSign Renewal notice got nailed as spam. The default config for a long time, now in 60_whitelist.cf, has had the following. whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] What address was your renewal from? Same or

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Yahoo and hotmail are all tagged as spam.

2002-07-12 Thread Bob Proulx
D wrote: and whitelist all the forged spam. I hate whitelists, unless they're based on unforgeable data (eg valid GPG signature). On that idea I have been wondering if it might be possible to add signing by the mailer list manager. Majordomo, mailman, etc. could sign the message that it

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spam Genetics?

2002-07-08 Thread Bob Proulx
But does that make me (the sender) a spammer? It's far too common to equate sender sent a message I consider junkmail with sender should therefore be prevented from sending mail to anyone I can manage to stop him from sending mail to. Isn't that the premise behind ORBS (open relay

Re: [SAtalk] s/SPAM/spam/ it seems

2002-07-08 Thread Bob Proulx
SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods, LLC, for luncheon meat. Didn't they have a press release a few months ago that stated that it didn't really bother them that UCE was being called spam? That is right, spam, not SPAM. They have a legal need to protect their trademark or they

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r in procmailrc?

2002-07-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Well, if you're autoreporting, I would agree. But we're agreeing that you shouldn't autoreport. What we're disagreeing about is whether you should report the spam after you verify that the message is in fact spam. Ah... Somewhere along the way I took a turn into the weeds. Thanks for

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r in procmailrc?

2002-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
and it adds the message as spam for people who aren't fortunate enough to use SA but use Razor instead. But... If they wanted to use SA they would use SA. Since they are not using SA when it is available to them but are using Razor it leads me to believe that they do not want to use it.

Re: [SAtalk] Seeking a cure for thrashing

2002-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
I'm curious as to how one might limit the number of simultaneous spamassassin processes. This is one idea that surfaced while reading your question. I am sure there are better ones. I run spamassassin as a procmail filter. If you are using the typical .procmailrc rule to pipe through to

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r in procmailrc?

2002-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
So, then, if I'm supposed to only use spamassassin -r to manually report spam, how in heaven's name do I use Razor, in conjunction with SA, to check for spam? If you have razor installed then spamassassin will automatically detect that and use it. If it is not installed then it won't.

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r in procmailrc?

2002-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
But... If they wanted to use SA they would use SA. Since they are You assume that people using SA or Razor do so by choice and/or are technically savvy enough to set them up. By choice, yes. Your point about technically savvy is interesting since I think both SA and Razor have similar

Re: [SAtalk] INVESTMENT ASSISTANCE

2002-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
You know, I'm suprised at how little spam gets sent through mailing lists. You are not subscribed to the right lists! At least half of my spam comes to me by way of mailing lists. May I direct you to a few such as bug-gnu-utils@gnu, or skywagons@airbase1, etc. I will say that sourceforge

Re: [SAtalk] .forward question

2002-07-02 Thread Bob Proulx
So, reviewing the README file with SpamAssassin, I put the following in my .forward: |IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #harold You're missing the double-quotes. Put those in the file and you should be fine. They were not quoting text to put in the file. Those quotes

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS score?

2002-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
are the scores listed on the tests-page up to date? The SUBJ_ALL_CAPS is scored -0.054. This means that all caps subjects are a sign of trustworthiness !? Only at a very small level. Basically the new (small) values say that subject all caps has no strong indication at all of the message

Re: [SAtalk] SA with .forward files

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
My server is a Cobalt Raq4. I have several users who have .forward files in their user directory. I have noticed that mails sent using .forward files are NOT passed through SA. I don't know anything about Cobalt Raq4. But let's say you are typical and are using procmail as the local mail

Re: [SAtalk] Subject munging bug?

2002-01-25 Thread Bob Proulx
yep, I've just added that for 2.1devel. *just* missed the 2.0 release ;) It's ok, you can release it in 2.00.01 ;^). Just a nit but leading zeros in version numbers are not desirable. Make that 2.0.1. Whole numbers separated by dots make automated processing by autorpm and dpkg and

Re: [SAtalk] spam deferral

2002-01-25 Thread Bob Proulx
I am using spamassassin site wide with qmail-scanner. I was wondering if it is possible to defer the mail, instead of delivering or bouncing the mail? Does anyone do this? Is it recommended? If you deferred it now, that would mean that it would resend the message again in a few (30?)

Re: [SAtalk] Version Numbering

2002-01-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Use letters for the second part. 2.a.7. 2.b.12 Just to be different. Everybody already uses numbers ... so mundane. And so standard and usable by a large audience of people and programs. If you want people to use the programs then things should not be difficult just to be different. Just

Re: [SAtalk] False positive with 2.0

2002-01-25 Thread Bob Proulx
jm wierd. for 3 months, nobody but spammers sent HTML-only mail, now jm everyone's doing it :( Better mod the score downwards... cewatts Is the really high HTML-only score a GA-created one? WOW, is cewatts that high. jm yeah, goes to show how effective it was, until all these other jm mails

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