RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-27 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, [apologies for this being so far off-topic] On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Peter P. Benac wrote: And this lack of response is due to what??? Lazy, stupid, apathetic, incompetent, or ambivalent members of the law enforcement and ISP community? Insufficient network diagnostic and security tools,

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Daniel Bird wrote: A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since [snip..] DNSBL could learn from that seed other DNSBLS, and replicate the data, and then (maybe?) do the RBL lookups locally. Obviously, the file (zone) transfers involved would be

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:13:19 +0100 Daniel Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forrest Aldrich wrote: A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors content -- something of that nature, whereby the

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Justin Mason
David B Funk writes: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Daniel Bird wrote: A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since [snip..] DNSBL could learn from that seed other DNSBLS, and replicate the data, and then (maybe?) do the RBL lookups locally. Obviously, the file (zone)

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread wrolf . courtney
Peter P. Benac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! Yes Peter, that is the strategy. Rather than having the distribution of this information being a cottage industry, go for the protection of our peers. I do believe that if whoever this spam friendly DDOSer is

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 25 September 2003 07:12 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter P. Benac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! Yes Peter, that is the strategy. Rather than having the distribution of this information being a

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Peter P. Benac
... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:12 To: 'SATalk list' Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:12 PM -0700 Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah -- a GPG-signed, private NNTP network would work great. Just needs someone to code it all up ;) Jesting aside, you could start a new newsgroup for this purpose, with people posting the data to the

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-25 Thread Richard Ahlquist
: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:05 AM To: 'SATalk list' Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd) And this lack of response is due to what??? When I worked for Cisco one of Cisco's customers detected a potential hacker to his system. That customer called the TAC

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Forrest Aldrich
A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors content -- something of that nature, whereby the hackers would basically have to DDos the entire internet to prevent its use. Not sure how such a framework could

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread wrolf . courtney
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RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Peter P. Benac
OR worse they'll attack SourceForge!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 16:04 To: SATalk list Cc: SATalk list Subject: Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Daniel Bird
Forrest Aldrich wrote: A new approach to DNSBL might be considered, where there is a peer-to-peer sharing (authentication, scoring whatever) that mirrors content -- something of that nature, whereby the hackers would basically have to DDos the entire internet to prevent its use. Not sure

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:13 PM +0100 Daniel Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since the death of Monkeys but also have no idea about how this would be implimented, but certainly the model of something like direct connect

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Covington, Chris
You guys are forgetting that dnsbl.sorbs.net has also been taken down after a DDoS. One too many... Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:07 PM -0500 Bob Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Osirusoft, now monkeys.com. Which DNSBL is next? When do the crosshairs move to SpamAssassin? Why are these systems not available through lots of secondaries, with a long expire time, so a DDoS can't