Re: [spring] Question from SPRING regarding draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression

2021-10-18 Thread otroan
>>> Still, using IID == 0 seems to be asking for trouble, since it's a > reserved value and is definitely special-cased in some code. Unless, that > is, you want exactly the properties described in RFC4291 section 2.6.1 > (thanks, Mark Smith). >> >> As Michael described, this assignment to

[spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: Re: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH)

2020-05-25 Thread otroan
Ron, [changed subject, as this seems of little relevance] > So that I will know whether I am allowed to reply. Wearing a chair's hat has never stopped anyone from replying before. For formal 6man communication Bob and I generally sign with "Best regards, Bob and Ole, 6man co-chairs". Unless

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-25 Thread otroan
Sander, >> Your below list looks like custom made set of RFP requirements to eliminate >> any other vendor or any other solution to solve the problem at hand rather >> then rational list of requirements. > > My main customer (an ISP in NL) would fit exactly in the list that Ron sent. > They

Re: [spring] Draft-ietf-spring-network-programming ipv6 addressing architecture - was draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-26 violating RFC4291, IPv6 Addressing Architecture?

2020-03-12 Thread otroan
IP addresses have been used outside of the strict "identifiers for interfaces". Apart from being used for routing, as a locator and as an identifier of course. Load-balancers / addresses for a service, NAT, NPT66, NAT66, MAP-E/T, anycast addresses... I am sure there are plenty others. Unless

Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for

2019-12-18 Thread otroan
Hi Ron, Thank you, the last call for this document will stay open until the issues raised are closed. Currently we are awaiting a new revision from the authors. I expect a few more rounds on this one. Best regards, Ole > On 18 Dec 2019, at 22:07, Ron Bonica wrote: > > Ole, > > I have

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-06 Thread otroan
> * polling the mailing list instead of deciding (on your own) that the > group wants to work on EH insertion, and, Which decision are you referring to? I have certainly never decided that working group wants to work on header insertion. With regards to the documents, I believe I clarified the

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-06 Thread otroan
Hi Ron, > I am not quite sure how to take this email. Are you suggesting that we should > review less, post less, and let the rubber stamping begin? No, not at all. And if it was open for that interpretation I am sorry. But there are a should's all of us could improve on. - not repeat the same

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-06 Thread otroan
Tom, > Bear in mind that quality discussion is real work by those > participating. It is a lot of effort to carefully read drafts, give > clear feedback, and respond to rebuttals. I would like to think that > the work individuals put in is justified by the outcome, and I assume > it the chairs

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-06 Thread otroan
Enno, >>> comply with it. The onus is on them, not on us asking folks to comply >>> with existing standards. >> >> Yes, we have heard your position on this now. >> There is of course a lot more nuance to this argument. > > could you please explain said 'nuance' in more detail? I could try,

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-05 Thread otroan
>>> I would say that it seems we have not been following the processes that >>> should be followed. This has happened repeatedly over time, for this >>> very same topic. The process seems to be biased, and thus unfair to the >>> rest of the wg participants. >> >> Which process are you talking

Re: [spring] We don't seem to be following our processes (Re: Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping)

2019-12-05 Thread otroan
Fernando, >>> Point taken. Could you comment on the current state of WG consensus? >> >> The working group session in Singapore ended with what appeared to be a view >> that we should continue work on both documents (Mark's and the Voyer draft). >> For the state of the wg consensus, I haven't

Re: [spring] Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping

2019-12-05 Thread otroan
Ron, > Point taken. Could you comment on the current state of WG consensus? The working group session in Singapore ended with what appeared to be a view that we should continue work on both documents (Mark's and the Voyer draft). For the state of the wg consensus, I haven't checked with Bob,

Re: [spring] Network Programming - Penultimate Segment Popping

2019-12-05 Thread otroan
Ron, > Currently, there is no consensus that IPv6 allows insertion of extension > headers by intermediate nodes, even if those intermediate nodes are segment > endpoints . Given this lack of consensus, the authors of network programming > have wisely agreed to remove header insertion from the

Re: [spring] L4 Checksum and draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header

2016-05-15 Thread otroan
Tal, > [Apologies if this issue has been discussed before.] > > According to draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, an ‘SR Segment Endpoint > Node’ updates the Destination IP address. > Therefore, it must also update the Layer 4 Checksum, right? > > I wonder if there is an upper bound on the