I guess we could go back to yester-year:
1/2" and 3/4" SSU and SSP. Pipe Scheduled Trees. No Backflow.
Is Sway Bracing required? No matter where it is, if it is an Essential
Facility, yes, if not, no.
Were there a lot of failures way back when?, before you had to have a PHD in
Philosophy and a Law
Ron:
If a fire catches at the bottom of the bag, it will be so quickly consumed
that it effectively will offer no obstruction to the rising plume, and
probably no obstruction to the falling sprinkler water. Uninvolved bags
could pose obstructions to spray reaching secondary targets further afiel
Anyone have experience with a place where the make the peanuts, this one is
about 30k sqft.. Storage areas are petty cut & dry design wise but in the
production area they have these big bags hanging from the ceiling with the
peanuts in them. The bags are about 10'X10' at the top and square for t
I had one of these once. The client used pentane (sort of like gasoline)
to blow the peanuts. He decided to install a small deluge system.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:53 AM, wrote:
> Anyone have experience with a place where the make the peanuts, this one
> is about 30k sqft.. Storage areas are
UHS I hope. This sounds like all it needs is an oxidizer and something to
destabilize the peanuts and you have a napalm factory.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ed Vining wrote:
> I had one of these once. The client used pentane (sort of like gasoline)
> to blow the peanuts. He decided to in
Long ago in a land far far away. It was the insurance underwriter who did
evaluations on a facility's fire sprinkler systems. It was their evaluation of
what they thought was a deficiency. The issue(s) were presented to the owner
and the owner either addressed the issue or they didn't and their
I agree there are PROBLEMS but I don't see a total disagreement in what you
wrote. Maybe it's in how we fix the problem. My adamant position is that it
is a code enforcement issue, not an NFPA issue and damn sure not a NFPA 25
issue.
Roland
Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire
A simple solution is to tell them that they can't hang anything from the
ceiling. The anchoring of the ceiling is only rated to hold up ceiling
components. Under fire conditions this could cause early collapse of the
ceiling. Granted the bags are light, but nothing should hang from the ceiling.
So if they don't hang from the ceilings and instead construct a structure to
hang the bags from the question still exists.
You can visit any "ups store" or "fedex office kinkos" and find bags hung from
the ceiling.
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From: Thomas R
Ditto...NFPA 3 and 4 may pick up the slack. If I was a fire marshal without
money or resources, I sure'd be looking long and hard at what I could get
from yearly audits of the life safety systems from a qualified / certified
firm. Its not just about 25...
Steven Scandaliato, SET CFPS
520.971.232
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