Potable water? Sprinkler, standpipe or both?
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> On Sep 10, 2020 at 10:33 PM, (mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org)> wrote:
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> Yeah, house boats lol On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:18 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via
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Yeah, house boats lol
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:18 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> A residential boat dock?
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> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 |
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Sounds to me like the unit is in the ductwork (a separate compartment of
non-combustible construction), it is surrounded by an inaccessible
concealed space of limited combustible construction), and opens to another
separate compartment by removing the grill that visually conceals it from
that latte
Pete by chance did you live in Crested Butte Co
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Thank you Kevin,
I'll send it to the AHJ
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It's good this is being clarified and defined in the upcoming edition.
Hopefully that will resolve the confusion on this issue once and for all.
But, now back to 2020..
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This issue was addressed during the current revision cycle of NFPA 13. For
the 2022 edition the proposed new language states:
*9.2.1.2.2* The space shall be considered a concealed space even with
non-fueled fired equipment and access panels. *
*A.9.2.1.2.2 Noncombustible and limited-combustible
It's a enclosure with an access panel.
It's constructed with fire retardant lumber.
To me it's like a Nursing home constructed with fire retardant lumber and there
are heat pump units above the ceilings,
sprinklers aren't required above those ceilings
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Is it really a closet, or just an enclosure with an access panel?
> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
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> Playing the devil's advocate here, one could argue that the presence of an
> electrically energized air handler negates the part stating "minimal
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Playing the devil's advocate here, one could argue that the presence of an
electrically energized air handler negates the part stating "minimal
combustible loading", that this is actually a mechanical closet not just a
"concealed space".
Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection
Better clarification should be in the 2022 edition…… Subject to ballot,
nitmams, etc.
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Mike:
Check into the AFSA informal interp archives regarding VTACs. I had one from
them in a hotel project recently. The spaces did not contain fuel fired
equipment so did not require protection.
Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET
Engineering Manager
MFP Design
3356 E Vallejo Ct
Gilbert, A
Here is my situation: Hotel Rooms that have a 3'-6" x 2'-6" Non-Combustible
Concealed space that has a heat pump
unit inside this space. There is not a door into this space only a discharge
grill that can be removed by the maintenance
staff to get access to service these units.
The local AHJ say
A residential boat dock?
Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 |
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1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606
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Just out of curiosity - is there a need for a code requirement? Is someone
arguing that the flush flow should not be included? What is their argument?
Matt
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Section 9.3.2 was added in the 2019 edition of NFPA 13R and could apply to
the demand in addition to the design sprinklers:
*9.3.1 For systems with common domestic/fire mains serving more than one
dwelling unit, domestic demand for the building being calculated shall be
included as part of the ov
We have run into a dock FW system design where multiple automatic flushing
valves are being provided on the system to prevent freezing by automatically
flowing water at temps below 40°F to the order of 300 gpm. Though this flow
should absolutely be included in the system demand flow, I am havin
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