Re: ESFR and Obstructed Construction

2020-10-07 Thread Kevin Hall via Sprinklerforum
As the standard is currently written, there is no relief from the 8’-0 minimum spacing requirement for ESFR sprinklers. The committee did discuss this issue for the 2022 edition and would allow distances less than 8’-0 where the ESFR sprinklers are installed in each channel in obstructed constructi

RE: ESFR and Obstructed Construction

2020-10-07 Thread Gregg Fontes via Sprinklerforum
Kevin, Thanks for the response. I should have asked my questions in two parts. First the 8'-0 minimum which you stated the committee has and is looking at and secondly is the (12) ESFR fire sprinkler calc area. Does or should the area square footage come into play in the design? At the 8'-0

ssu - concealed space - small room???

2020-10-07 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
We have a project that was pre-engineered.  It has several issues that we are having to correct.  One is something I haven’t considered.  We have a concealed combustible space that requires 130 sq ft max spacing.  The pendents are 225 sq ft max spacing.  All of the walls for the office spaces –

Re: ssu - concealed space - small room???

2020-10-07 Thread Fpdcdesign via Sprinklerforum
Are you required to use concealed space sprinklers? If it meets the NFPA definition of a room and the requirements of 11.2.3.3 are met, then you should be able to use it above a ceiling. Be sure of any fire resistance rating requirements. Todd G Williams, PE Fir

RE: ssu - concealed space - small room???

2020-10-07 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
4' deep space so no specially listed sprinklers. But the unobstructed criteria in 13 for the definition of a small room, I believe kicks me out. But this is a first for me. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET Engineering Manager MFP Design 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 NEW EXTENSION: 4

Re: ssu - concealed space - small room???

2020-10-07 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
You got it. You must satisfy the definition of small room and my guess is you will not meet the requirements. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* m: p: 301-343-1457 214-349-5965 ext 121 w: firesprinkler