RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts I hear what you’re saying John. I don’t know how the NFPA 13 committee came to this conclusion about car stackers or exactly what type of stacker system this criteria is based upon. There are many variations. But even in EH2, you are still expected to deal with

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
m<http://www.jacobs.com/> From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:21 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts Does it have to be one versus the other, or are we really just looking at two separate but equivalen

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread John Irwin
forgotten.” – Benjamin Franklin From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:22 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts I hear what you’re saying John. I don’t know how the NFPA 13 committee came to this conclusion

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
| craig.pr...@jacobs.com<mailto:craig.pr...@jacobs.com> | www.jacobs.com<http://www.jacobs.com/> From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John Irwin Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:41 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts I agree with what yo

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
Behalf Of John Irwin Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:41 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts I agree with what you are saying here Craig, but as Mike already pointed out, NFPA 13 2016 does seem to cover this. The explanatory material in the handbook

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
10:37 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts Said report also supports a ceiling of OHG2 combined with in-racks beneath each corner of the upper car (if memory serves me right) Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. Dal

RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread John Irwin
price is forgotten.” – Benjamin Franklin From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:30 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts Whether the lift has a catch pan below the car or not makes no difference. In these

Re: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Roland Huggins
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
rinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Car Lifts Use common sense. There is guidance on all scenarios is not sorted yet. If the lift plate on which the car rests has lots of openings ( ~ 50% is the line in the sand for racking), then overhead-only should be good. If the car rests on a solid plate

Re: Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Roland Huggins
nklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>> On Behalf Of John > Irwin > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:10 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > <mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> > Subject: Car Lifts > > > > Currently working on a high en

Car Lifts

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Sprinklerforum *On > Behalf Of *John Irwin > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:10 AM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Subject:* Car Lifts > > > > Currently working on a high end condo development. The owners have > individual garages with an option to ha

RE: Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread Mike Stossel
From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John Irwin Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:10 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Car Lifts Currently working on a high end condo development. The owners have individual garages with an option to have a lift installed so that they can get an addition

Car Lifts

2019-01-30 Thread John Irwin
Currently working on a high end condo development. The owners have individual garages with an option to have a lift installed so that they can get an additional car in. I am sure you know where this is going ... sprinklers under the lift or no? I don't know of any code references that directly