Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread gordonb3
mherger wrote: > > > You patched yourself? Would be great if you could confirm 8.3.1, as I > plan to release that probably soon. Hesitant on account of the alarm issue which apparently still exists given that the thread on this issue received a post earlier today. May try temporarily later

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread Michael Herger
Slightly different from the one that was proposed earlier and that I added to my Gentoo build, but yes this works as well. Verified with 8.2.0 - not ready for 8.3.x yet. You patched yourself? Would be great if you could confirm 8.3.1, as I plan to release that probably soon.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread gordonb3
mherger wrote: > Could you please try the latest 8.3.1 nightly build? Philippe kindly > provided a patch which would hopefully fix this. Slightly different from the one that was proposed earlier and that I added to my Gentoo build, but yes this works as well. Verified with 8.2.0 - not ready

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread Michael Herger
Could you please try the latest 8.3.1 nightly build? Philippe kindly provided a patch which would hopefully fix this. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread gordonb3
An additional note: I actually misidentified this bug. It is not related or even restricted to SB Radio. The reason for this false identification is that I did not have the same station selected on all of my SBs.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread Michael Herger
PS How long ago was it that you rebooted that Pi? up 1 day, 21:35 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-18 Thread gordonb3
mherger wrote: > > Your choice. But you seem to suffer real problems with your choice, > asking for help about them, while SD card corruption and "Pi is no > better" are purely assumptions. Moving from an ARMv5 based NAS to a Pi3B > > was like night and day. And that Pi has been running

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread Michael Herger
Oh and obviously this is just a background server. It doesn't even have any graphic interface that you can connect a screen to. And as stated it runs a lot more than just LMS and does not get corrupted by an SD card turning unwritable so I'll choose this over a Pi any time. Your choice. But you

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread gordonb3
mherger wrote: > > Oh, and all the electric power you'll use working day and night. You'll > > never compensate this using an underpowered device to run the code > instead of a Pi which wouldn't consume any more energy today... A Pi is just as crippled as the device I use even though it may

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread gordonb3
philippe_44 wrote: > I think as a dev the product of time_to_develop * runtime_ressources * > app_complexity is a sort of constant. You just need to figure out what > matters for you. I’m able now to create by my own things that would have > taken a lifetime when I started my career. But it

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread philippe_44
I think as a dev the product of time_to_develop * runtime_ressources * app_complexity is a sort of constant. You just need to figure out what matters for you. I’m able now to create by my own things that would have taken a lifetime when I started my career. But it comes with a price. Language is

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread Michael Herger
interpreted versus code that is compiled. I'll bet you that if I were to rewrite LMS and turn it into a binary I can make it show its web GUI within a second after startup as well (currently takes 10-15 seconds for the Apache frontend to stop returning a HTTP-500). But you'll never get the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread Michael Herger
interpreted versus code that is compiled. I'll bet you that if I were to rewrite LMS and turn it into a binary I can make it show its web GUI within a second after startup as well (currently takes 10-15 seconds for the Apache frontend to stop returning a HTTP-500). But you'll never get the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread gordonb3
philippe_44 wrote: > But you can get LMS running with transcoding even on an old PiZero 1st > gen with arm1176. Transcoding does not use that much CPU and compilers > are really efficient (remember that all transcoders are native compiled > application) I know, but as said if you stress the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread philippe_44
gordonb3 wrote: > That would place higher requirements on the server CPU and subsequently > either rule out green devices completely or require them to be dedicated > for LMS and even then you would likely run into trouble when copying new > music files onto them while also listening. > > This

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread gordonb3
philippe_44 wrote: > This is part of what I had to do to allow players that support aac to > play mp4 streams but also to allow LMS to transcode when they don’t. > It’s true that LMS does not benefit from mp4 to aac unwrapping when > transcoding is disabled. Candidly, when I was writing that I

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread philippe_44
gordonb3 wrote: > Interesting. > > Since the number of changes were limited I did some tracing and found > the offending change: > > > Code: > > > diff --git a/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm b/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm > index e3411fe0e94..786c5a8600e 100644 > ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread gordonb3
Interesting. Since the number of changes were limited I did some tracing and found the offending change: Code: diff --git a/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm b/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm index e3411fe0e94..786c5a8600e 100644 --- a/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm +++

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-17 Thread philippe_44
Open file /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Song.pm (might in a slightly different place) and change, around line 440 Code: # Set the correct format for WAV/AAC playback if ( exists $streamFormatMap{$format} ) { $format = $streamFormatMap{$format}; }

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread philippe_44
gordonb3 wrote: > Okay. I guess at least it helps that I was able to pinpoint the problem > to a fairly limited set of commits even though from my perspective I > really need to restrict myself to the ones that are tagged as release. > I've not done any deep investigation towards the actual

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
garym wrote: > I tried both of these through my own Radio (running latest community > firmware, 8.0.1-r16907, and LMS 8.3.1 (see setup in Signature). First > plays fine as 128kbps AAC. Second one plays fine as 64kbps AAC. All my > filetype settings/transcoding, etc. are set as default (I've

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread garym
gordonb3 wrote: > Sure: > > 'Kink Classics' > (http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s194478=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice=16=5ed18b9e1b4eeb6d3ae73745fc47c368=s:~K:country) > > 'NPO Radio 2' >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
Okay. I guess at least it helps that I was able to pinpoint the problem to a fairly limited set of commits even though from my perspective I really need to restrict myself to the ones that are tagged as release. I've not done any deep investigation towards the actual cause but if I were to guess

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread philippe_44
gordonb3 wrote: > Same problem. No playback on radio streams. It was introduced between > the two indicated commits and as apparently I'm the first one to > discover the bug it was never solved. I did many of these commits because the mp4/aac management was a soup that was sometimes working by

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
Same problem. No playback on radio streams. It was introduced between the two indicated commits and as apparently I'm the first one to discover the bug it was never solved. gordonb3's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread philippe_44
Why not using 8.3.0? There has been a lot of work to improve audio format management consistency LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
Paul Webster wrote: > Can you give a URL of one that fails for you? Sure: 'Kink Classics' (http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s194478=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice=16=5ed18b9e1b4eeb6d3ae73745fc47c368=s:~K:country) 'NPO Radio 2'

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread Paul Webster
Can you give a URL of one that fails for you? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
I tried two streams. They are both AAC I think. Either way that should not be the issue as they are processed quite fine by LMS up to 8.1.0 Obviously I have my reasons for disabling transcoding. Re-enabling it is not an option.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread mherger
What radio stream are you using? And are you saying you disabled transcoding? Then I'd recommend you re-enable it. Michael "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!" (LMS: Settings/Information)

[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 (and above) break radio streaming on SB Radio

2022-11-16 Thread gordonb3
Yesterday I upgraded my LMS from version 8.0.0 to 8.2.0, not noticing anything wrong. This morning the alarm on Radio did the tsjiboom thing and as I investigated I found that Radio refused to play the active media which happened to be a radio station (I did find out later that it still does