Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Jeanne Baer
For those interested in the specifications on the various Mallets and any other classifications, pictures of many of them, who built what, abandoned what and when, you might want to check out http://www.steamlocomotive.com. The page for the Virginian 2-10-10-2 is http://www.steamlocomotive.com/a

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
I was a children. ;] That stated, most of the stations I've used were regulated and the other ones you had to pay to use. {:p I wasn't gonna do that! ;] Now I gots a 12V pump. =) Trot, the not-so-big-city, foxy... On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe the reference was

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread WAnliker
In a message dated 10/28/00 7:35:04 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I always filled them to the same presure that I later did car tires to. >> I believe the reference was to allowing the children do it. Most stations have about 125 pounds of pressure, and the air ho

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
No, it's not any of the Triplex's. This one is a 2-10-10-2. This one was actually used succesfully. this one had all it's exhuast routed to the same stack. ;] http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_vgn802.jpg Just trying again... ;] Trot, the fox who can still see it! On Sat, 28 Oct 2

Re: Kitson-Still Loco

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
Ok, so I was off on some details. I'm oging to have to get that book back out. ;] I'll scan a pic when I do. I thought it was an 0-6-0 tank... {:/ Trot, the intruiged, fox... On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is a description in Brian Webb's book 'British Internal Combst

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
Yes, that was a nifty loco! Not that I've ever seens one mind you, but I have a book at home that outlines the workings of the loco. It was started on steam because no-one could figure out how to get a diesel engine to start a train moving. The diesel had to already be turning before it could m

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
Ok, I understand these things and know all about the three-piece truck wheels. But why would you not use an air-line at a station to fill bike tires? I always filled them to the same presure that I later did car tires to. Trot, the confused, fox... On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Sam Evans wrote: > A

Re: Compound Gauge 1 Locomotives

2000-10-28 Thread trotfox
Just out of curiosity, does the BR96 have a superheater? Is the articulation prototypical? Does the model have a solidly-mounted rear frame or did the prototype have pivoted bogies? I'm ever-so curious about these things. ;] Trot, the wonderin', fox... On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Harold Wantiez w

Re: Kitson-Still Loco

2000-10-28 Thread ArtwalkJ98
There is a description in Brian Webb's book 'British Internal Combstion Locomotive 1894-1940' publ David & Charles. Looked pretty like a 2-6-2 tank but had a horiz. opposed 8 cylinder engine mounted transversely. You are right, steam first to inner ends of cylinders diesel on outer, but both

Re: CA YAK

2000-10-28 Thread WAnliker
In a message dated 10/28/00 2:01:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Compressed Air was used in Mines because CA was used to drive rock drills etc so there was a supply right through the mine, and CA had to be produced anyway >> A side use of the CA was used to aler

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
I can't get the pix but if its the Virginian Triplex, I believe the Erie has some too. An electric brass model in 1/4" has been produced because my employer bought one! If someone can meke a working live steam model of a Hagans system loco then the Triplex out to be an attainable if expensive ch

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
Jeanne Baer wrote: > > It seems like compounding was tried over and over in the US for decades and > also abandoned over and over again. Everyone loved the theory but it was > just too hard in practice for the gains (fairly commonly small) that were > realized. I think it a bit more complex

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
Steve The French I think were probably the acknowledged geniuses for compounding conventional as opposed to articulated locos. I suspect their success was down to superb designers, precision engineering and the fact that their engineers (or mechanicien) were trained at technical school as well

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
Trent There was a rail equivalent called the Kitson-Still locomotive in the UK which I believe was started on steam (for the accelerated start?) and then switched over to heavy oil/deisel for main running. Anyone any further details? Sam e Trent Dowler wrote: > > I have seen two "half breed

Re: OTP, please forgive!

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
A true story: A tyre fitter left a new truck tyre and centre on the floor hooked up to an airline and left it. When he remembered it he rushed back and unfortunately leaned over the tyre to try and pull the airline off. His colleagues heard the explosion and rushed to see what had caused it.

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
Vance Was this universal, or only applied to locos above a certain size where the HP exhaust line to the LP cylinders was of such a length to cause probs? Does anyone know if the re-heat was applied to (say) locos the size of the Vivarais 0-6-6-0 Mallets? I assume that the two large pipes

Re: Why won't this work?

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
All The reason the cylinders are larger as the steam pressure drops is that the lower pressure requires a larger square inch surface (piston dia) to output an equal amount of work as the high pressure cylinder & so on. If the work rate of each clinder fell with the drop in pressure then the engi

Re: steam storage locos

2000-10-28 Thread Sam Evans
Compressed Air was used in Mines because CA was used to drive rock drills etc so there was a supply right through the mine, and CA had to be produced anyway A matter of convenience. the germans also produced CA locos for industrial use. There was an attempt to use CA for street tram locos,

RE: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 259

2000-10-28 Thread Shyvers, Steve
Harley and others, I do not remember too many details and I believe that some of the cab control levers and linkages were missing when I visited the loco. Perhaps another list member has recorded more details. Steve

RE: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 259

2000-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve and all, Since the cab-forward has come up, and I have never seen the SP 4-8-8-2 in the Calif. Museum, the Engineer sat on the fireman's side and faced backwards. What did the throttle, and controls look like? In reference to the Baldwin 2-4-4-2 compound, it never tracked very well. The ori

Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 259

2000-10-28 Thread Doug Edwards
Steve and all, The original SP cab forwards were 2-8-8-2's and 2-6-6-2's(soon to be 4-6-6-2's). The former were built with 57 inch drivers for freight use, the latter with 63" drivers for passenger use. The 4 wheel lead truck was added to keep the locos on the track at passenger speeds. Both we

Frank S lighting problems

2000-10-28 Thread Gary Lane
Frank S loco runs great once steam is raised and relights just fine after it is hot. Initial lighting is horrid! The fire keeps going out, if it gets going at all. Lighting attempts at every valve setting possible have been repeatedly attempted. What does work is removing the burner and applying a

Thanks for the feedback Peter

2000-10-28 Thread Gary Lane
Thanks for reasuring my fears after reading that one posting. No reverse S curves except a very shallow arc that has some straight interposed as well. AristoCraft stainless steel track is wonderful and 8 foot per section. All joints on curves are staggered at least six to 24 inches. The only downs

Compound Gauge 1 Locomotives

2000-10-28 Thread Harold Wantiez
Hi Everyone, I have an Aster BR96 compound, 0-8-8-0, which operates very well. The exhaust from the high pressure cylinders feeds through a length of silicon tubing to the high pressure cylinders with no additional reheat. The cylinders are properly "matched" - Aster did a good job in the desi

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Trent Dowler
Like "Trot, the curios, fox...", I am also interested in how this was done. I'm sure that it's not feasable for our steamers, but there's something to be learned from everything. Anyone have information? Later, Trent "Shyvers, Steve" wrote: > cab-forward articulated on display had been a co

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Landon Solomon
I have seen pictures of this beast, and it was a beast, but never a model... I wonder why? ;] See picher here; http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_vgn802.jpg Be prepaired, it's a big one... Trot, the fox who'd love to have one of those in HO! =D At 10:31 PM 10/27/00 EDT, you wrote:

Re: compounding and reheating (was Why won't this work?)

2000-10-28 Thread Landon Solomon
*grin* Seeing the way water tends to boil in the outlet pipe of Ruby I can just see it... A the first drop enters the re-heat pipe it flash-boils and the rear drivers spin backwards while the fronts surge forward! Ok, so It likely wouldn't go that way... but it's fun to imagine! Trot, the sill