Re: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Arthur S. Cohen
Anybody uses 4130 steel Tim, 4130 steel is for case hardening. In it's soft state it can be used for anything in a model locomotive where a steel component is needed. Arthur--Mexico City > > > >

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Tim de Haan
Anybody uses 4130 steel as used in the aircraft industry? I do and find it just about the best for our uses. not cheap but..Also available in many sizes. Tim de Haan.

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Vance Bass
> I thought you were supposed to go to 400C... I don't know about > you but my oven won't go that high. } ; ] Actually, it probably will. The self-cleaning feature on ovens made in the past 20 years or so raises the temp to 900F (482C), which should be sufficient. Arthur mentioned bedding in

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Terry Griner
Oooops um yea 400C is more like it, sorry. Terry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What grade material to use? I thought you were supposed to go to 400C... I don't know about you but my

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Landon Solomon
I thought you were supposed to go to 400C... I don't know about you but my oven won't go that high. } ; ] We have some 900C+ annealers at work... though I don't think they'd let me try putting a piece of mild steel in with a wafer. *devious grin* Trot, the semi-conducting, fox... | /\_/\

Re: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Arthur S. Cohen
RE:- Original Message - Subject: Re: What grade material to use? > Hi Group, > Regarding the warpage of cold rolled steels... > Dear Jon, Excuse me but I have to correct you on your concept of correcting/controlling warpage when machining steel or machining just about any other metal. T

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Harry Wade
At 09:39 AM 7/9/04 -0400, you wrote: >I had been wondering about annealing the CRS. Isn't simply a case of heating it to like 400 degrees F - Terry Griner Terry, I can't recall the temperature but my understanding is that steel must be taken beyond to its critical temperature, at which point

RE: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Terry Griner
I had been wondering about annealing the CRS. Isn't simply a case of heating it to like 400 degrees F and holding it for an hour per 1/2 inch, then allowing to cool slowly? Since we are working with fairly short pieces that's something that could be done in the home oven (while the "boss" is awa

Re: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Jim Curry
I've used 304 s.s. for laser cut frames (1/8") recently and not noticed any warpage after cutting axle box slots. Laser cut connecting rods (1/8")have been slightly warped but I attribute that to heat generated during the cutting process. In any case, the slight warpage was easily straightened, c

What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Harry Wade
At 10:44 PM 7/8/04 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Harry, >I'm surprised to see that you still get mild steels with the mill scale >still on it. - Bert Bert, Yes, it's one of the basic materials in the U.S. sheet metal industry although I now see steel without scale occasionally laying behind the shears

Re: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Harry Wade
At 02:23 AM 7/9/04 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Group, Regarding the warpage of cold rolled steels... Jon This is as accurate a description and examples of the problems with CRS as I have heard lately. Obviously it has it place and uses, otherwise they wouldn't make the stuff, but one has to know how

Re: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread J.D. Toumanian
Hi Group, Regarding the warpage of cold rolled steels... I learned this in Machine Tool Tech school years ago, and I'll relate my crude understanding as best I can: When cold rolled metals are rolled out into sheets, stresses are created on the surfaces which are greater than the internal stresse

Re[2]: What grade material to use?

2004-07-09 Thread Bert & Edmunda
To all interested While on this subject of using steel if there is any sharp bending to be done it could be of some advantage to know the rolling direction of the plate. Sharp bends 90° to the rolling direction can cause fractures of the steel. Particularly on harder sorts. Whereas bending across

Grade of material.

2004-07-09 Thread Gordon Watson
Pete, For plate frames I use 1/16th mild steel sheet. CRCQ [cold rolled commercial pickled ] has a clean matt grey look and laser cuts well..for US style bar frames hot rolled pickled sheet[ 4 mm thick] which can be laser cut or milled out for one offs..dont try milling out with cold rol