RE: no, the list isn't broken ...

Dave, Well said! I hope to boil some water before the weekend has ended and the blur of the week begins. It has indeed been too long. Mike Martin _ so i sat there for a few minutes watching the engine go 'round and 'round the l

RE: BAGRS Project Loco

e axleboxes on the BAGRS ?? Thanks Michael - Original Message ----- From: "Michael Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:02 AM Subject: RE: BAGRS Project Loco > Doug, > > Check out: http:

RE: BAGRS Project Loco

The photo link has been repaired (thanks to Vance's discovery). Mike The photos page comes up blank. Are the photos available? Thanks Michael - Original Message - From: "Michael Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" Sent:

RE: BAGRS Project Loco

Doug, Check out: http://www.panyo.com/bpe/drive.htm for drivetrain info, and: http://www.panyo.com/bpe/photos.htm for overall views, and finally: http://www.panyo.com/cad/ for the drawings. Mike -Original Message- From: sslivesteam@colegroup.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

RE: Planes and trains

Jim, Does that include "scary looking" oddballs like the John Thompson/BAGRS conversion, or just engines that are easily identified as "toy trains"? See you in Diamondhead! Mike Martin -Original Message- From: sslivesteam@colegroup.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: priming

Nickel silver contains no silver, but some grades are similar in appearance. The following information is from the Dial Tool Industries' website. Nickel silver can be obtained in eight different grades of hardness (from "annealed" to "extra spring"). 1/4 or 1/2 hard would probably be the best co

2004 National Summer Steamup Photos Posted

I have posted 80+ pictures from the 2004 National Summer Steamup. They may be found at: http://www.panyo.com/nss2004 I hope you enjoy them. Mike Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Midwest Steam-up After Action Report

I was amazed by the Hill Climb figures that Bruce included in his after steamup report! It appears that the track inclination was set in degrees and then converted to the percentage grades he reported. The steepest grade reported (70.02%) equates to exactly 35 degrees. Another way to express thi

RE: Photo depth and plume

And, I'd dare say at a relatively "long" focal length (i.e. telephoto). Which will further reduce the depth of field for a given aperture setting. Dave wrote: btw, that picture was shot at nominal iso 200, 1/30 of a second, f2.8 ... which is why there is no depth of field ... \dmc -

was Steamup Pictures - now Basic Project Engine

that they will come to their own conclusions. Below, I have cut and pasted an excerpt from what has become my standard reply when people ask for the plans. Best Regards, Mich

Saturday's steamup at Jim McDavid's

All, I have posted a few pictures from Jim's steamup. You will find them at http://www.panyo.com/jim Best regards, Mike

RE: Fire Bricks

Were they refractory bricks (not fire bricks)? I bought some very light-weight tan colored refractory bricks a few years back for ~$6.00 (US) ea. They are extremely brittle but very effective. It is my understanding that the refractory bricks reflect more of the heat to the workpiece. Mike Ti

RE: Steamup Photos

Bob, Always glad to hear when someone new joins the hobby. If you need more inspiration, or it's just too cold to head outside and run your own, check out the Steam in the Garden (aka SitG) website at http://www.steamup.com Lots of great articles and photos there. If you aren't already subscribe

Steamup Photos

Happy day after Thanksgiving. I recently posted a few photos from a Steamup held on May 24, 2003 at Dan Liebowitz’ photogenic railroad. They will be found at: http://www.panyo.com/dan3 Mike

RE: Fire!!!!! Burned

I would like to pitch in. I can't even imagine what they are going through. Dave - can you set something up on one of your servers? Mike

RE: Threading

Multiply the thread depth by 1.1434 to determine the amount of compound slide travel required. This assumes an angle of 29 degrees from perpendicular to the axis of the part. Mike

Re: ot: train trip photos ...

OK Dave, I'm LNER green with envy! Nice pictures of what appears to have been a great experience. Thanks for sharing them! Mike Martin

Re: Need Help ID'ing man in G1MRA group photo from NSS

Geoff, Thank you! Mike Geoff Spenceley wrote: > > Mike--The chap on the far right is Rob Meadows of Los Angeles. > > Geoff.

Need Help ID'ing man in G1MRA group photo from NSS

Hello, I need help identifying a G1MRA member that attended the recent National Summer Steamup in McLellan, CA. The photo is scheduled to be run in the next SitG so sooner is better :-) I have posted the photo at: http://www.panyo.com/G1MRA/ Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! Mik

Re: Project Tram Completed

ed "The Tale of Two Trams". I have image files if > anyone is interested or if someone wants to host them on the web. > > Steve > > -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: BPE safety valve

Midwest's Heritage series safety valve/filler cap will screw directly onto the threaded filler bush on their "Model VI" boiler. You might want to contact Midwest and inquire about purchasing one separately. Mike (Who really does care about safety)

Re: BPE boiler mods?

I'm getting a little worried about everyone's safety inasmuch as so many keystrokes have been devoted to the perils of the Midwest Boiler that we may all end up suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome... Here's something else to loose sleep over: =

Re: PDF file

on Brown needs me to convert some files for an > article. Thank you in advance. > > Jim > > > -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: PDF file

Jim. I'd be happy to help out. Let me know what you need. Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: BPE boiler mods?

induce the draft without any luck! > > I will replace the spiral superheater pipe with a simple straight pipe along > with making a new exit hole to see if this fixes the problem, am I on the > right track? > > Kindest Regards, > PeteH > -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Need help identifying engines/owners for SitG photos!!!

Steve, Thank you. I will incorporate the change in the caption. Mike

Re: Need help identifying engines/owners for SitG photos!!!

Geoff, Thank you for the information. I have updated the captions to reflect the new info. I did not shoot any video at the NSS but I believe Richard did. I have not seen what he recorded yet. Thanks again, Mike Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Need help identifying engines/owners for SitG photos!!!

Bob, Thank you for the info. I have made the corrections. Mike Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Need help identifying engines/owners for SitG photos!!!

Can anyone confirm Mike Chaney's assumption? Was Dwight in attendance? Thanks, Mike M. Mike Chaney wrote: > > > #017 is used by Dwight Ennis as his sig on www.mylargescale.com so I assume it > is his. > > Mike C.

Re: (Help!) Need picture(s) of Project Engines

Jim, Thanks for the offer of the photo. My address is: Mike Martin 1849 Springer Road Mountain View, CA 94040 Thanks again, Mike

Need help identifying engines/owners for SitG photos!!!

All, I have posted 50 photos for Ron Brown to choose from for publication in the next issue of SitG. I have captions for the majority but need your help to fill in the missing bits. I have posted thumbnails and small versions at http://www.panyo.com/SitG/ (the URL is case Sensitive). I need t

(Help!) Need picture(s) of Project Engines

I am looking for pictures of the "gaggle" of Basic Project Engines (aka "BPE" and "BAGRS loco") that was assembled at the recent National Summer Steamup. Several people took pictures of the group of engines on the table in the room where the seminars were conducted. I failed to get a shot. Thank

Re: Heat tape (long)

Harry, A local acrylic fabricator uses heat strips as you describe. In addition, the strip is flanked with 1/2" copper pipe that carries cold recirculating water. This is done to keep the softened portion of the plastic confined to a narrow area - which allows much better control of the bends.

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

Yes, I went through three oxygen cylinders at about $8 each (and that was about 7 or 8 years ago) when silver soldering a 1 5/8" dia. x 6" long copper boiler with a 7/8" dia. steam dome. I managed to get the job done, albeit somewhat sloppy, i.e. way too much alloy. I also melted the corner of th

Re: Silversoldering Stainless Steel

Hi Royce, Enough propane burned per unit-time is one answer. I have the Sievert propane setup and am very satisfied with its ability to bring large copper assemblies (Gauge 1 boilers, etc.) to silver soldering temperature (1145'F for easyflow 45) in a short enough time that the flux is not satura

Re: Where to find plans

The Denver 0-4-0 is featured on Marc Horovitz' website as the locomotive of the month for November, 2001. The url for the information page is http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/locos/Denver1.html Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my steam related pages at: http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Sterno for fuel?

Hi Tom, Not advisable - as the residue from either is significant. Also, it would be too viscous to get through the small diameter feed pipes and/or past the wicks. Mike tom leaton wrote: > > Thanks guys. I was wondering if you could use the liquid Sterno in alcohol > burning locos like Aster

Re: Sterno for fuel?

Be careful, there are at least two different Sterno products. I am familiar with the traditional jelled chaffing dish fuel and the liquid version. Tom asked abut the liquid version. The liquid version is considerably less viscous and therefore more prone to spillage. Worse, when I used some in

Loctite and Model Steam Engine Construction

Hello listers, Has anyone had experience with using Loctite products in the building of model steam engines? I'm speaking of retaining compounds (as opposed to thread lockers). I recently picked up some Loctite 620 at a local distributor to experiment with. Specifically I want to know if it (or

Was: Manufacturers and surveys now Butane: Friend or Foe?

Dave Cole wrote: >>>they get the results like "80 percent of current steamers prefer alcohol" (five >>>minutes at diamondhead would tell you that's way, way off)<<< While butane may be the most prevalent fuel in use at Diamondhead it does not necessarily mean it is by choice. I would like to ha

Re: Any suggestion on a torch?

Ken, Check with Sulphur Springs Steam Models on the availability of Sievert propane torches. I bought mine from them several years back and have found it to be master of any silver soldering job I have done. Mike http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering

Re: (No subject)

Impressive macro work with that new camera Dave! Thanks for sharing. Mike

Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?

Ah, dual power systems. It's not unlike the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight hybrid vehicles... :-) Mike

Re: Max wheel RPM

While maximum wheel RPM was one of the design criteria used to determine maximum rated speeds, piston acceleration was also important. Connecting rod length and piston stroke contribute to this value. To better understand the engineering tenets of the era, you could take the dimensions of all the

Re: More Diamondhead Pictures

We missed having you there Jim. Are you planning on attending the Summer Steamup in Sacramento? I'm already looking forward to it. Mike http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

More Diamondhead Pictures

All, I have recently posted about 50 of the pictures I took at Diamondhead. You can access them from my main page at http://www.panyo.com/steamups I hope you enjoy them, Mike

Re: Details on Jim Pitts' Trex Track System

Jim, Thank you for sharing your construction photos with us. You have a beautiful railroad and are to be commended for the wonderful documentation of your track planning/building experience. Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: Fw: Rodents?

Geoff Spenceley wrote: > I do have an electric wire around the pond which works but your idea of > voltage on the track is excellent! YIKES! Careful there Geoff. Some one is bound to go too far and suggest that there might be a way to actually power model trains from track voltage! While

Steam power in the 21st century

This may be of interest to those that exhibit a proclivity towards steam boats... :-) http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3321 Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

SP #2472 is taking passengers - Please read

for more information. For additional pictures of #2472 see my pages at: www.panyo.com/ggrm and www.panyo.com/2472sj Happy Steaming, Michael Martin

Re: Soldering and welding require practice.

st thinking out loud, Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: Boxpok driver model preview

k that I may be "preaching to the choir" at this point... In other words, you're probably already there. I am looking forward to seeing the project as it progresses. Keep us posted. Regards, Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: Boxpok driver model preview & other questions

Jim, I hope I didn't make the impression that I was being critical of Gary's wheel design. I agree entirely that for the intended application (rolling stock) he's done a great job of reducing drag. Regards, Mike Martin Jim Curry wrote: "The

Re: Boxpok driver model preview & other questions

the wheel tread and the flange, thus reducing (or eliminating) the contact between wheel tread and rail. The design criteria for a driver should not diverge from the prototype so much that traction becomes a problem. Any thoughts along these lines? -- Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Firebox Stays - What to use?

Monel is the material of choice according to K. N. Harris, author of Model Boilers and Boliermaking. -- Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: American project?

There were many (good looking) straight boilered 4-4-0s in the 1840-1880 era. Check out a scan of "Phantom" from the book A History of THE AMERICAN LOCOMOTIVE Its Development:1830-1880 By John H. White, Jr. Dover Publications, Inc. New York ISBN 0-486-23818-0 www.panyo.com/misc/Phantom.htm M

Re: OT: Re: Lucinda (was Sammy exhaust tubes)

The version I have heard attributes the saying to English bar-keeping practice of centuries ago. In this version, Ps and Qs refer to pints and quarts. Patrons needed to pay close attention to their tab because the unscrupulous barkeep might pad it after the patron had a few... Michael Martin

Basic Project Engine Plans (backwoods vertical boiler type)

to be shared. To that end, I am working on part source and vendor information to be included on the Basic Project Engine website. I'll let everyone know when it is finished. Thank you. Michael Martin

More National Summer Steamup pictures posted

Greetings Live Steamers, I have finally found time to post additional pictures from the 2002 National Summer Steamup. Go to: www.panyo.com/steamups and follow the link from there. I hope you enjoy them. Michael Martin

Re: boiler bushings

Boiler holding fixture? Do tell. Thanks, Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: Pop Valves

Hi Mike, I would definitely like a copy of the .DWG file. I spent an hour looking through several books that I thought had dimensioned drawings of pop-type safety valves. Unfortunately, every one of them had a generalized description without giving any critical proportions, let alone dimensions

Re: SR&RL problems

center) will cure this. Do you have a friend with a Roundhouse engine that you could swap safety valves with? This would be a simple diagnostic to help you narrow down your problem. Good luck, Michael Martin

Re: of boilers and things

By varying the I.D., the O.D. remains the same and allows all three series of nominal copper pipe (M, L, and DWV) to share the same elbows, tees, reducers, etc. Copper TUBING is another story... Mike

Re: Thin refractory material

Royce, Check with Sulphur Springs Steam Models. I purchased some Fiberfrax (sp?) from them a few years ago. It appears to be a ceramic fiber "felt" material about 1/16" thick. If I knew where I placed it, I'd send you some. Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: Boxpoks

is a contraction of the words "box spoke". The internal structure of the Boxpok wheel is indeed box-like. Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: Screw removal idea for C-16 superheater

Before resorting to such extreme measures as visegrips (ouch!), you may want to try some heat. While it's not much fun to work on parts at operating temperature, you may find the screw easier to remove. -- Michael Martin

Re: Clearances between tracks

I second Steve's assertion! (-: see http://www.panyo.com/bloom/images/1Z080022.jpg Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: 5 or 2

es other than their own were at risk. Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: New Bio

5 people? I can't find the link to the article at the moment, but I recall a report of 2 deaths. (Certainly two too many.) Does anyone have the link handy? Respectfully, Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: nut height

n view or print it from the default viewer. Find the file at: www.panyo.com/misc/ Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

Re: (MORE) Diamondhead Pictures Posted

Tony, Thanks for the kudos. I am happy to report that I did get some runs in (as well as a whole lot of talking)! Sorry I missed your steamup last Saturday. I'm on a fairly short leash after "playing trains and being away for 5 days"... (Her words.) Take care Mike http://www.panyo.com/stea

Re: (MORE) Diamondhead Pictures Posted

Thanks Steve, I wish more of the SF Bay Area gang could have been there! Next year? I have decided to go on the Tuesday prior to the event... I've got my room reservation in already. It was cool beyond words. Mike

Re: (MORE) Diamondhead Pictures Posted

Yes, I got in some runs and talked to many people. Had a blast! Michael Martin PS The images that made it to the website represent about 10% of what I shot... http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamup Images and Model Engineering)

(MORE) Diamondhead Pictures Posted

All, I have posted 94 pictures from the Diamondhead event at http://www.panyo.com/dh2002 I hope you enjoy them. Regards, Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups (SF Bay Area Steamups and Model Engineering)

Re: parafin vs lamp oil

John, Are you coming to Diamondhead to show us how??? :-) Hope to see you there! Michael Martin http://www.panyo.com/steamups

Re: New Year's Resolutions and Live Steam

ase, the engine is intended to run with the steam motor at the rear (the Whyte system always describing the locomotive's wheel sets from front to rear). Now I'm curious too. Anyone out there know more about this? Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New Year's Resolutions and Live Steam

e denatured alcohol. The funny thing is, it seems to retain much of its viscosity even when cut with large portions of alcohol. Either way, the "secret" is to raise steam, extinguish the fire, top up the Sterno in the fuel pan, and then re-light it. Then you can settle in for a 20 minute

Re: New Year's Resolutions and Live Steam

Thanks Steve. I got your excellent suggestions for the Project website, sorry I didn't respond sooner. The comment about something to get a sense of scale from hit home. Several people were confused by the picture from Jon's steamup. They thought it might be a riding scale... Thanks again, M

New Year's Resolutions and Live Steam

fulfilling, prosperous, and peaceful new year. Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Boiler test results

normal or possible operating conditions. I would guess that my toaster could become quite dangerous if I supplied current to it using an arc welder as a power supply. :-) Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Piston Speed Calculator for Steam Locomotives

thinking... Fact is, the calculator doesn't come close to answering his question, but it gets you one step closer to being able to (or at least related questions). Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Royce wrote: "I did, however, wonder whether

Re: Cylinder vs. Axle Alignment

OK Royce, Send me my usual retainer fee and I'll model it in Solidworks and do the FEA work in CosmosWorks. My guess is the main rod takes leave of the locomotive at piston accelerations in excess of 6000 ft/second², irrespective of attempts to balance the assembly... :-) Michael Martin

Re: Mike Martin's Project website

Vance, It's www.panyo.com/project Thanks, Mike

Help needed on the new Project Engine Website

gallery of successful projects would help inspire other beginners to get started in this wonderful hobby we share. Thanks in advance, Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another view on Accucraft C-16 excessive steam oil usage

There's another version of that image of Jeff's C-16 at www.panyo.com/steamups/C-16.htm Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steamup pictures posted

I just finished uploading the pictures from Jon Bloom's Steamup. They may be found at: www.panyo.com/bloom Thanks for a great day of steaming Jon. For additional steamups, see: www.panyo.com/steamups Enjoy Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K4 firing

when being adjusted to a lower pressure. Perhaps he can supply details. Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K4 firing

x27;t a patented maneuver Bill!) The rubber bulb is a Radio Shack "Solder Sucker", normally used for removing excess solder from circuit boards. Any similar implement should work as well. Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Diamondhead Plans?

vance, Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Steamup Photos from Dan Liebowitz'

Tony, Thanks for the nice words. I will be continuing to add to it as time permits. Take care, Mike

Steamup Photos from Dan Liebowitz'

7;em a read. Either way, push the buttons and cool stuff happens! Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Found: a new source for materials.

l OSH is considerably higher than the identical item (K&S) at my local hobby shop. The more rugged (larger) pieces have a smaller price gap. It appears that the hardware store is charging for all the bent pieces they have to toss out... -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K4 piston backhead

I went with 8" track centers on Dan Liebowitz' layout. It seems to handle most anything. ...including the odd stray bottle of beverage. -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Track & rail bender

time wiping off of the rail heads... Michael Martin in the sunny and mild San Francisco Bay Area [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: die usage

The 2 4 8 sequence must be on the numeric keypad to the right of your alphabet keys (with the number lock "ON", of course). -- Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Oh the joy

Jon, Hurray! When's the party? :-) Mike

Re: BAGRS LOCO

Steve, I'm always glad to hear when people enjoy the building experience as much as the running. When do we get to see a picture? Enjoy! Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Wheel turning

e-work as a matter of course instead of being designed to avoid custom-turned parts. << Enjoy your efforts and keep counting the fingers (before and after each operation). Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dan's This Weekend?

Gary, Are you going to be at Dan Liebowitz' this Sunday? Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Door Prize Flyer ERROR!!!

Gary, Yes, there's a dealer room. I believe Kevin O'Connor is in charge of that. Let him know right away if you need space. I believe there has already been some spillover into the halls. On a related subject: Have you billed us yet for the price difference between the Aluminum and Nickel Si

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