Re: Fn3

2002-12-16 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Greg, I guess we have to be more careful as to our description "live steam scale". As fire, water and steam are three elements that cannot effectively be "scaled". Reference cheap movies etc. I am surprised the IFORCREEC** commisars have not beat their drums on this one also as yet.

Re: Fn3

2002-12-12 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Jim Gregg, I.F.O.R.C.R.A.E.C. Isn't that the same OSHA Geoff.

Re: Fn3

2002-12-12 Thread Terry Griner
Vance, Thanks hadn't thought of the 30" gauge! Since my railroad, the NPiPRR (No Place in Particular Railroad) is totally made up, I could say it's 30" gauge. The I could get those nifty models I like! And converting plans to 1:18 is as easy as converting to 1:24. Thanks for the idea. Terry Gr

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Gary
- Original Message - From: Vance Bass To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Fn3 On 11 Dec 2002 at 13:52, Gary wrote: > Of course trains could be made in 1:18, 1:24, 1:32 and have track > guaged to match. Obviously, going to a

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Phil Paskos
about. VBG - Phil > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:14 AM > Subject: Re: Fn3 > > > > So for #1 Gauge track, w

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Alison & Jim Gregg
Hi All. Answers interspersedAt 05:25 PM 12/11/02 -0800, you wrote: Hi Geoff, If you have any more 10mm "stuff' you are giving away, then we need to talk!. Question - (Brit to Brit Monty Python humour, and not strictly "politically correct"). With both my Britannia and Duchess at 10mm,

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel McGrath
Mums the word, Gary. Similar deal in New Jersey. Occupational therapy be darned, Manifest Destiney in 1:20:3, look out and beware Cecil Rhodes, my track is on order _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Gary
rger in my yard over the last eight years. Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor - Original Message - From: Daniel McGrath To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:34 PM Subjec

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Hi Tony, All 10mm are gone, they were assembled from kits by me which made them junk! Running yer 10mm locos on 45mm is perfect if you are happy--we have to accomodate the Brits, just as we did with their OO. Wot's a slight discrepancy of .018? It would take more than that to discourage me if I h

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel McGrath
I suspect the cooks have finished the Strawberrys. Otherwise, make steam and set course for Donovan's Reef, I understand there is a fellow running Lionel type trains infront of a saloon, what more can you ask for except "Live Steam"? It's too late, Cabin Fever! __

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread WaltSwartz
McGrath wrote, and Spenceley answered, they spend their time counting Kermit speak! Rivit...rivitrivitrivitand on ad nauseum! and they play with Barby Dolls! Do Ken and Barbie co-habit the "combine?" This is model railroading? I guess they are trying to "Keep their steam up!!

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Geoff, If you have any more 10mm "stuff' you are giving away, then we need to talk!. Question - (Brit to Brit Monty Python humour, and not strictly "politically correct"). With both my Britannia and Duchess at 10mm, does running them on 45mm track qualify them as narrow gauge engine

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Jim Stapleton
Gee I thought a GG1 was standard gage ELECTRIC. Steam oil for the boiler that makes steam heat for the trailing cars? Not usually. Confusion reigns in VA for this SPF. BTW, Green boilered K-27 #461, ser#36 due to be delivered on 12/18/02 from Accu. May have to run on the weekend if the ice i

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Gary, The only way to happily resolve these problems is to use imagination, or as an alternative, change the hobby to Barbie Dolls. In fact I have two mini Barbie dolls which go quite well with 16mm (1/19th), 1:20 1:18, 1:20.3, 1:29, 1:24, even 1:32--if yers uses yers imagination! Re your "apo

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel McGrath
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Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel McGrath
Gary, Do you have a permit to cogitate in Eugene, Oregon? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread John Simon
J General Manager Elk River & Cheat Mountain Railroad - Original Message - From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: Fn3 > Of course the d

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel McGrath
Ah yes, Satisfaction, that's the whole thing! For the hard-core rivit counters, tally on! Myself, I've got more than enough real life concerns like "where are my strawberrys?" _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FR

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread TrotFox Greyfoot
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Kevin Strong wrote: > If Aristo's proposed live steam loco comes in a box marked "LS29," I > will be both amazed and highly pleased. Not because it's a much needed > low-cost standard gauge steamer, but because it shows that they're > demonstrating some commitment to segregati

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Vance Bass
On 11 Dec 2002 at 13:52, Gary wrote: > Of course trains could be made in 1:18, 1:24, 1:32 and have track > guaged to match. Obviously, going to a track gauge other then 45mm would make the most sense from some standpoints, but it's the least likely thing to happen, IMO. So, we go to the scales t

Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Gary
Of course the debate is hot and seems to be destined to remain just a debate. If suppose as more detail and scale correct products exist, if buyers actually place money on the scale table, then manufacturers will simply follow the money. I wish that cars, trucks, tanks, farm equipment, heavy equip

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread john flynn
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 12:42 pm, you wrote: > Sir Art and Terry, > > Well, being a simple old fellow, I have solved the problems of all these > confounded scales by settling for 1/32 scale-- for both the locos and the > track. (Please, no nit-picking telling me that 45mm is not EGGSAXTLY

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Kevin Strong
> > > > It's a forlorn bleat I am sure, but can't we give up these crazy US & Brit > > nomenclatures? > > For any miniature all you need to know is the scale ratio from the prototype > > (correct or incorrect as the manufacturer prefers) & the track gauge in mm, > > e.g. 20.3/45 > > A system sim

Re: WAS: Fn3 NOW:scale/choice

2002-12-11 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Terry, So yer happy with it--good for you! Yes 1/24 scale doesn't need a calculator for conversion--nor does 1/32 (unless you are me!) Geoff. Geoff > I have followed your lead. I have a Accucraft Ida, and am working in >1:24 scale for buildings. (It makes conversion of plans fairly easy) >I ad

WAS: Fn3 NOW:scale/choice

2002-12-11 Thread Terry Griner
Geoff I have followed your lead. I have a Accucraft Ida, and am working in 1:24 scale for buildings. (It makes conversion of plans fairly easy) I adhere to the 10 foot/3 meter rule. Terry Griner Columbus Ohio USA >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/02 12:42PM >>> Sir Art and Terry, Well, being a si

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Sam Evans
Got my vote Sam E Terry Griner wrote: > > Here here Art! > <> > > > So for #1 Gauge track, what scale should #24 be? > > 7/8n2 presumably! > > It's a forlorn bleat I am sure, but can't we give up these crazy US & Brit > nomenclatures? > For any miniature all you need to know is the scale rati

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Sir Art and Terry, Well, being a simple old fellow, I have solved the problems of all these confounded scales by settling for 1/32 scale-- for both the locos and the track. (Please, no nit-picking telling me that 45mm is not EGGSAXTLY 1/32 of 4' 8-1/2") No complications as long as I stay away

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Terry Griner
Here here Art! <> > So for #1 Gauge track, what scale should #24 be? 7/8n2 presumably! It's a forlorn bleat I am sure, but can't we give up these crazy US & Brit nomenclatures? For any miniature all you need to know is the scale ratio from the prototype (correct or incorrect as the manufacturer

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread mart.towers
- Original Message - From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:14 AM Subject: Re: Fn3 > So for #1 Gauge track, what scale should #24 be? 7/8n2 presumably! It

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Phil Paskos
s 1:20.3, so it is 3' gauge models in 1:20.3 scale - > > i.e. gauge 1 track with accurate scale models. > > > > > > The Accucraft NG steamers are all Fn3, including that beeaauuutifu > > K-27. > > > > > > Pete > > > > >

Re: Re: Fn3 / #24 / K-27

2002-12-11 Thread Bruce Gathman
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:42:35 -0500, Jim Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Phil > >The F in Fn3 stands for fifteen (15) mm/ft -- how original of the NMRA. >At least that's better than A(ccucraft) for 1:29 scale. I can bitch about >it cause I have been a life mem

Re: Fn3

2002-12-11 Thread Sam Evans
was a narrow 2 foot Gauge. It's still my favorite G1 engine . > > Phil > > > In a message dated 12/10/2002 3:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > What is Fn3? > > > > Phil, > > NMRA designated "F"

Re: Fn3

2002-12-10 Thread Vance Bass
On 10 Dec 2002 at 21:14, Gary wrote: > So for #1 Gauge track, what scale should #24 be? 1:13.7, or 7/8" to the foot. -vance- Is it too much to demand? I want a full house and a rock-and-roll band, Pens that won't run out of ink, and cool quiet and time to think. Shouldn't I have all of this, and

Re: Fn3

2002-12-10 Thread Gary
So for #1 Gauge track, what scale should #24 be? - Original Message - From: Peter Foley To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Fn3 At 08:48 PM 10/12/02, Phil Paxos wrote: >Thanks . I missed this one. What is a Roundhouse SR

Re: Fn3 / #24 / K-27

2002-12-10 Thread Jim Stapleton
Phil The F in Fn3 stands for fifteen (15) mm/ft -- how original of the NMRA. At least that's better than A(ccucraft) for 1:29 scale. I can bitch about it cause I have been a life member ( L-3070) for 26 years. Folks from Roundhouse say that the scale of the #24, which should have been 16

Re: Fn3

2002-12-10 Thread Peter Foley
At 08:48 PM 10/12/02, Phil Paxos wrote: Thanks . I missed this one. What is a Roundhouse SR#24? Remember the original was a narrow 2 foot Gauge. The Roundhouse #24 is more or less 1/2"=1' scale. It was simply too big if built to 16mm scale for gauge 'O', which would have been correct scale and

Re: Fn3

2002-12-10 Thread Phil Paskos
Thanks . I missed this one. What is a Roundhouse SR#24? Remember the original was a narrow 2 foot Gauge. It's still my favorite G1 engine . Phil > In a message dated 12/10/2002 3:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > What is Fn3? > > Phil, >

Re: Fn3

2002-12-10 Thread Pthornto
In a message dated 12/10/2002 3:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What is Fn3? Phil, NMRA designated "F" as 1:20.3, so it is 3' gauge models in 1:20.3 scale - i.e. gauge 1 track with accurate scale models. The Accucraft NG steamers are all F