Re: [Standards] ACTIVE: XEP-0239 (Binary XMPP)

2008-03-31 Thread Fabio Forno
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:15 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Version 1.0 of XEP-0239 (Binary XMPP) has been released. > > Abstract: This specification defines Binary XMPP, an obviously superior > representation of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP). > G

[Standards] ACTIVE: XEP-0239 (Binary XMPP)

2008-03-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 1.0 of XEP-0239 (Binary XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines Binary XMPP, an obviously superior representation of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP). Changelog: April Fools! (pm/psa/ff) Diff: N/A URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0239.h

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0238 (XMPP Protocol Flows for Inter-Domain Federation)

2008-03-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.1 of XEP-0238 (XMPP Protocol Flows for Inter-Domain Federation) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides detailed protocol flows for the establishment of communication between domains that provide XMPP services, including permutations for a wide variety of possible fed

Re: [Standards] [API] Proposed XMPP Extension: IO DATA

2008-03-31 Thread Johannes Wagener
Fabio Forno schrieb: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's try to RESTify it in order to have a more general solution: What is the particular benefit here of having a RESTful interface? An exercise, since the XEP was referencing RE

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: IO DATA

2008-03-31 Thread Johannes Wagener
Hi Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: Do you send it all through XMPP? Is it all in small chunks as in the examples you wrote, ore there may be also bigger chunks of data? I'm asking because I think that everybody here would like to know more about real life examples of binary data transfer through XMPP

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0235 (Authorization Tokens)

2008-03-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.3 of XEP-0235 (Authorization Tokens) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP extension for generating, requesting, and using authorization tokens, which can be used to join Multi-User Chat rooms, subscribe to Publish-Subscribe nodes, and even register XMPP acco

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Stephen Pendleton
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: standards@xmpp.org > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:29:56 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP? > > On Monday 31 March 2008 9:14 am, Stephen Pendleton wrote: > > I don't see why this is silly. As it says in the BOSH XEP: [BOSH] is useful > >

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Fabio Forno
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The current situation is a mess. While XEP-198 has a high XEP number, the > > concept is many years old, and when it was first introduced there was > little > > interest and the council rejected the proposal

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Fabio Forno
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Justin Karneges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The current situation is a mess. While XEP-198 has a high XEP number, the > concept is many years old, and when it was first introduced there was little > interest and the council rejected the proposal. It didn't see

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Justin Karneges wrote: > On Monday 31 March 2008 9:14 am, Stephen Pendleton wrote: >> I don't see why this is silly. As it says in the BOSH XEP: [BOSH] is useful >> in situations where a device or client is unable to maintain a long-lived >> TCP connection to an XMPP server. > > Sure, but we don't

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Justin Karneges
On Monday 31 March 2008 9:14 am, Stephen Pendleton wrote: > I don't see why this is silly. As it says in the BOSH XEP: [BOSH] is useful > in situations where a device or client is unable to maintain a long-lived > TCP connection to an XMPP server. Sure, but we don't need HTTP for that. I think BO

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

2008-03-31 Thread Stephen Pendleton
I don't see why this is silly. As it says in the BOSH XEP: [BOSH] is useful in situations where a device or client is unable to maintain a long-lived TCP connection to an XMPP server. Also, BOSH uses TCP in most scenarios so we need to be careful when discussing "switching between BOSH and TCP

Re: [Standards] XEP-0235: data forms?

2008-03-31 Thread Pedro Melo
On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Fabio Forno wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Pedro Melo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have nothing very strong against Data Forms. My point was that, for clients that use XPath to parse the known parts of the stanza (and transparently ignore anything t

Re: [Standards] [API] Proposed XMPP Extension: IO DATA

2008-03-31 Thread Pedro Melo
Hi, On Mar 30, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Fabio Forno wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, let me say that asynchronous RPC support in XMPP is very interesting for scientific workflow environments. This proposal addresses two problems which are imp

Re: [Standards] [API] Proposed XMPP Extension: IO DATA

2008-03-31 Thread Fabio Forno
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Let's try to RESTify it in order to have a more general solution: > > What is the particular benefit here of having a RESTful interface? An exercise, since the XEP was referencing REST ;) Jokes apart, REST is

Re: [Standards] Labeling Roster Items

2008-03-31 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:53:54PM -0700, anders conbere wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Justin Karneges > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 March 2008 7:34 pm, anders conbere wrote: > > > However in XMPP our roster grouping are still relegated to binning or > > > boxin

Re: [Standards] Labeling Roster Items

2008-03-31 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2008-03-30, nie o godzinie 20:53 -0700, anders conbere pisze: > Right now I'm struggling to find an number of > clients that let me keep users in multiple groups, or at least give > me ui to group in a tagging like behavior. Gajim does support contacts in multiple groups for the very long ti