Re: [Standards] inconsistency between section 7.2 - 10. 2 in XEP-0136 ?

2009-04-06 Thread Alexander Tsvyashchenko
Hello Peter, On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:24:33 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: You are right -- the words participating full JID in the first paragraph of Section 7.2 unnecessarily and incorrectly limit the matching for collection retrieval. I've fixed that:

Re: [Standards] Section 2.3 of XEP-0107

2009-04-06 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 05.04.2009 um 20:40 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: Clarified: http://svn.xmpp.org:18080/browse/XMPP/trunk/extensions/xep-0107.xml?%40diffMode=u%40diffWrap=sr1=2467r2=2990u=3ignore=k= Sounds good :). -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Cridland
On Sun Apr 5 19:18:59 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm open to doing this if someone wants to help with the CSS/XSL. Didn't I send you some already? And this can be accomplished reasonably easily with a minor XSL and CSS tweak, which I've attached in patch form. Dave. -- Dave

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Apr 2 01:54:35 2009, Robin Redeker wrote: If the server does route the wrong information to the wrong people it's buggy. Well... Possibly. Or it might be lacking sufficient information to route correctly - that part we simply don't see today. With a reverse roster lookup on a

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Mar 31 21:59:46 2009, Philipp Hancke wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: [snip] But then there's responsibility - right now, it's inarguably your local server which enforces who gets your presence, From a different point of view: It is your server which controls that I get presence from you.

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 4/6/09 4:49 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Sun Apr 5 19:18:59 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm open to doing this if someone wants to help with the CSS/XSL. Didn't I send you some already? Ah, well you sent some RGB codes. I need a way to place a vertical stripe down the side of the page

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/6 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: Ah, well you sent some RGB codes. I need a way to place a vertical stripe down the side of the page (100% of the height), which seems to be rather difficult in CSS (although possibly it will be part of CSS3). Peter This should be quite easy,

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 4/6/09 4:49 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Sun Apr 5 19:18:59 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm open to doing this if someone wants to help with the CSS/XSL. Didn't I send you some already? Ah, well you sent some RGB codes. I need a way to place a vertical stripe

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Tobias Markmann
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.imwrote: On 4/6/09 4:49 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Sun Apr 5 19:18:59 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm open to doing this if someone wants to help with the CSS/XSL. Didn't I send you some already? Ah, well you sent

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 4/6/09 8:17 AM, Tobias Markmann wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im mailto:stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: On 4/6/09 4:49 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Sun Apr 5 19:18:59 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I'm open to doing this if someone wants

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 4/6/09 7:28 AM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: 2009/4/6 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: Ah, well you sent some RGB codes. I need a way to place a vertical stripe down the side of the page (100% of the height), which seems to be rather difficult in CSS (although possibly it will be part of

Re: [Standards] XEPs in Pretty Colours.

2009-04-06 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/6 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: On 4/6/09 7:28 AM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: This should be quite easy, unless you want it to have a vertical text included. The simplest way I can think about is adding a background image. :) I was hoping to avoid image loads for our spec files.

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Waqas Hussain
What follows might just be nonsense, but I'm still speaking out. For the trees, you understand. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: [snip] You want to replace 2-4 with: 2') Home server collates roster by remote domain and emits one presence stanza per remote

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Philipp Hancke
Dave Cridland wrote: [snip] sender doesn't want you to, which is substantially worse, and without any bad actor involved. (I could be wrong here, please check this.) So we argue to optimize the protocol for this case? Hmm, the other side might get information I didn't want to tell him, well,

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Philipp Hancke
Waqas Hussain wrote: I suspect the CPU cost would be lower with this proposal. Saved bandwidth was more appealing to me than saved CPU time, but the missing unsubscribed issue makes this optimization invalid, so no point in attempting tests. hashes or counters make it possible to check for

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Cridland
On Mon Apr 6 17:54:16 2009, Philipp Hancke wrote: Actually, the current model enables a single client to bring down a server by making the server broadcast large presence stanzas at a high rate. Simplistic bandwidth control mechanisms such as karma account traffic per socket, and do not

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2/2009

2009-04-06 Thread Alexander Gnauck
The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) is currently holding its quarterly membership application period: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_April_2009 Applications are encouraged from developers and others who are actively involved in the Jabber/XMPP community. To apply, create a

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Philipp Hancke
Dave Cridland wrote: On Mon Apr 6 17:54:16 2009, Philipp Hancke wrote: Actually, the current model enables a single client to bring down a server by making the server broadcast large presence stanzas at a high rate. Simplistic bandwidth control mechanisms such as karma account traffic per

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0264 (File Transfer Thumbnails)

2009-04-06 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2 of XEP-0264 (File Transfer Thumbnails) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a way for a client supply a preview image for a file transfer. Changelog: Add paragraph in security section about protecting agains malicious thumbnail dimensions in offer. Fixed a typo.

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0198 (Stream Management)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/31/09 6:07 AM, Fabio Forno wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:23 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor edi...@xmpp.org wrote: Version 0.7 of XEP-0198 (Stream Management) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for active management of an XML stream

[Standards] UPDATED REGISTRY: FORM_TYPEs for Data Forms

2009-04-06 Thread XMPP Registrar
The FORM_TYPEs for Data Forms registry has been updated. Version: 0.9 Changelog: Added missing jabber:iq:register:cancel and jabber:iq:register:changepassword FORM_TYPEs from XEP-0077. (psa) URL: http://www.xmpp.org/registrar/formtypes.html

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0255 (Location Query)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/22/09 7:00 PM, Joe Hildebrand wrote: On Mar 21, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Helge Timenes wrote: I agree that mac is more general-purpose. Well mac is maybe also too general? Agree. Either nic or ethernet are fine with me. Would nic be appropriate? In any case a bit of prose would be needed

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0255 (Location Query)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/20/09 12:25 AM, Helge Timenes wrote: Firstly, I appologise for sluggish response. I ran into another space-time continuum singularity... It happens. :) Secondly, see inline. Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/14/09 4:28 AM, Helge Timenes wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On

Re: [Standards] User Profile/Relationship/Project/Resume (was: MUC avatar/logo)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/18/09 8:30 AM, Nicolas Vérité wrote: 2009/3/18 Remko Tronçon re...@el-tramo.be: I think a VCard is exactly what you mean, or what do you mean by User Profile? He means XEP-154, but that one is dying anyway. [Yes, I meant that, answered offlist not to pollute] OK, I learn that

Re: [Standards] inconsistency between section 7.2 - 10.2 in XEP-0136 ?

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 4/6/09 12:28 AM, Alexander Tsvyashchenko wrote: Hello Peter, On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:24:33 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: You are right -- the words participating full JID in the first paragraph of Section 7.2 unnecessarily and incorrectly limit the matching for

Re: [Standards] Multiple binds in XMPP-CORE

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/1/09 5:31 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: On Sun Mar 1 09:45:12 2009, Dirk Meyer wrote: I'm thinking of maybe having a proxy in the home network. All local devices connect to the proxy and the proxy relays everything to the server. In that case the proxy registers all

Re: [Standards] Presence distribution

2009-04-06 Thread Mridul Muralidharan
--- On Mon, 6/4/09, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: From: Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net Subject: Re: [Standards] Presence distribution To: XMPP Standards standards@xmpp.org Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 11:10 PM On Mon Apr  6 17:54:16 2009, Philipp Hancke wrote: Actually, the