Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Dave Cridland
Can we add something into the security considerations for this document which discusses the exposure of the jid in by, please? Dave.

Re: [Standards] XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Mickaël Rémond
Hello, (Sorry for the mistype on previous mail that send it prematurely) I read the Unique and Stable Stanza Ids and what I miss is some perspective on recommanded use case / implementation. As a server developer, we indeed need Stanza ID in many contexts (Like for example to undupe resend of

Re: [Standards] XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Mickaël Rémond
Hello, I read the Unique and Stable Stanza I On 14 Jul 2015, at 18:37, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.1 of XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs) has been released. Abstract: This specification describes unique and stable IDs for stanzas.

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Dave Cridland
On 15 July 2015 at 16:12, Florian Schmaus f...@geekplace.eu wrote: On 15.07.2015 10:12, Dave Cridland wrote: Can we add something into the security considerations for this document which discusses the exposure of the jid in by, please? I had the same though, but then discarded adding such

[Standards] Fwd: [Council] Minutes 2015-07-15

2015-07-15 Thread Kevin Smith
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Kevin Smith Subject: [Council] Minutes 2015-07-15 Date: 15 July 2015 16:15:37 BST To: XMPP Council Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2015-07-15/ 1) Roll call Kev, Fippo, Dave, Lance, Matt present 2)

Re: [Standards] XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 15.07.2015 14:27, Mickaël Rémond wrote: I read the Unique and Stable Stanza Ids and what I miss is some perspective on recommanded use case / implementation. XEP-SID is meant as building block for other XEPs. It's a re-useable extension for other extensions that need unique and stable

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 15.07.2015 00:31, Lance Stout wrote: - Why put the client-id in the stanza-id ? It has been suggested (but not yet incorporated into 359) that client-id be replaced by the simple lack of a 'by' attribute. (If no 'by' is present, the entity that stamped the ID is the stanza sender,

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

2015-07-15 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 15.07.2015 10:12, Dave Cridland wrote: Can we add something into the security considerations for this document which discusses the exposure of the jid in by, please? I had the same though, but then discarded adding such a consideration because the only JIDs worth protecting are the ones of