Re: [Standards] MAM: Conflicting storage prefs behaviour

2017-02-20 Thread Ruslan N. Marchenko
On 19.02.2017 22:49, Matthew Wild wrote: An example implementation of storage de-duplication, let's say you have two users: userA and userB. userA sends a message to userB, which the server archives, because both of them have archiving enabled. When processing the message from userA, the server

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 2/20/17 2:20 AM, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new > standard---harms readability a lot. However, I can also see that using > examples which do not fit the current standards lead to developers > implementing the wrong things,

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 2/20/17 4:28 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: >> * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: >>> I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new >>> standard---harms readability a lot. However, I can also see that using >>> examples whi

Re: [Standards] Resourceparts with Bind2

2017-02-20 Thread Kevin Smith
On 20 Feb 2017, at 16:12, Steve Kille wrote: >> Clients are going to need to use a consistent approach to globally unique >> naming. If they’re not unique then you’ll get collisions and all the >> benefits are >> lost. (And if they’re not consistent then they’ll be fingerprintable, which >> seems

Re: [Standards] Resourceparts with Bind2

2017-02-20 Thread Steve Kille
> Clients are going to need to use a consistent approach to globally unique > naming. If they’re not unique then you’ll get collisions and all the benefits > are > lost. (And if they’re not consistent then they’ll be fingerprintable, which > seems like a sensible thing to avoid while we’ve got t

Re: [Standards] Resourceparts with Bind2

2017-02-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 20.02.2017 14:12, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> On 20 Feb 2017, at 12:42, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> >> On 20.02.2017 12:54, Kevin Smith wrote: >>> Hi Flow, >>> >>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 11:28, Florian Schmaus wrote: On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: > * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20

Re: [Standards] Resourceparts with Bind2

2017-02-20 Thread Kevin Smith
> On 20 Feb 2017, at 12:42, Florian Schmaus wrote: > > On 20.02.2017 12:54, Kevin Smith wrote: >> Hi Flow, >> >> On 20 Feb 2017, at 11:28, Florian Schmaus wrote: >>> >>> On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: > I feel that using BIND2 resources-

[Standards] Resourceparts with Bind2

2017-02-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 20.02.2017 12:54, Kevin Smith wrote: > Hi Flow, > > On 20 Feb 2017, at 11:28, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> >> On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: >>> * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new standard---h

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Kevin Smith
Hi Flow, On 20 Feb 2017, at 11:28, Florian Schmaus wrote: > > On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: >> * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: >>> I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new >>> standard---harms readability a lot. However, I can also see that usi

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 20.02.2017 10:36, Georg Lukas wrote: > * Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: >> I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new >> standard---harms readability a lot. However, I can also see that using >> examples which do not fit the current standards lead to devel

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:36:07 +0100 Georg Lukas wrote: > I think that we need readable examples in the XEPs over anything else. > My suggestion would be to use human-readable, short resource > identifiers, both in the client case and in the auto-generated proxy > case. It is possible to convey the sa

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Georg Lukas
* Jonas Wielicki [2017-02-20 10:20]: > I feel that using BIND2 resources---albeit this is likely to become the new > standard---harms readability a lot. However, I can also see that using > examples which do not fit the current standards lead to developers > implementing the wrong things, such

Re: [Standards] Example Resources in XEPs (XEP-0369)

2017-02-20 Thread Jonas Wielicki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hey list, On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 02:00:49 CET Steve Kille wrote: > > * Steve Kille [2017-02-13 12:55]: > > > 8. Use example JIDs aligned to anticipated BIND2 format. These are > > > long! > > > > I think it's a bad idea to do this in examples

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2017-02-20 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, first of all thank you Matt for the update. > In the case of non-anonymous rooms or if the recipient of the MUC archive has > the right to access the sender real JID at the time of the query, the archive > message will use extended message information in an element qualified by > the 'htt