Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-11-13 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Kim Alvefur wrote: > > But perhaps this one? > https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0355.html > XEP-0355 is not included in the last call 2018 compliance suite. The issue I raised was over XEP-0114. The question is whether a server implementation should be considered

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-11-09 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Diane Trout wrote: > Also a better justification for the component protocol is that it > allows people to develop reasonably portable new features like xep 363. > https://github.com/siacs/HttpUploadComponent I agree with you that being able to implement a new fea

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-11-09 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Florian Schmaus wrote: > A component protocols allows components to piggyback on the > s2s capabilities of the XMPP server. And s2s is not trivial to implement > (Dialback, SASL EXTERNAL, possibly BIDI, …). Therefore a component > protocol allows developers to foc

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-11-09 Thread Arc Riley
of it as a feature would only impact sysadmins trying to run XMPP components. Beyond that, I'd think any XEP on the MTI list should be standards track, not historical. On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 09.11.2017 02:07, Arc Riley wrote: > > Since XEP-01

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-11-08 Thread Arc Riley
Since XEP-0114 is historical and its purpose predates SRV records, I'm wondering why it was included in the suite for server compliance? On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Sam Whited wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:50, Dave Cridland wrote: > > On 1 November 2017 at 17:14, Sam Whited wro

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0385 (Stateless Inline Media Sharing (SIMS))

2017-11-07 Thread Arc Riley
s/xep-0266.html#mti > > On 11/7/17 2:11 PM, Arc Riley wrote: > > https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0385.html#sect-idm139941991230272 > > > > Since the IETF has standardized the patent-clear Opus codec, this should > > be recommended. It is already used for WebRTC and broa

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0385 (Stateless Inline Media Sharing (SIMS))

2017-11-07 Thread Arc Riley
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0385.html#sect-idm139941991230272 Since the IETF has standardized the patent-clear Opus codec, this should be recommended. It is already used for WebRTC and broadly supported. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6716 https://caniuse.com/#search=Opus On Wed, Oct 4, 20

Re: [Standards] [xmpp] [Summit] Fwd: [jdev] [CFP] FOSDEM 2016, RTC devroom, speakers, volunteers neeeded

2015-11-20 Thread Arc Riley
I'm on email, it did not go to spam. On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 20/11/15 23:32, Dave Cridland wrote: > > The original went straight into my Google spam folder. > > > > Conspiracy theories welcome. > > > > > I don't use gmail myself. Could you contact the supp

Re: [Standards] Fwd: [xmpp] XMPP over WebSocket

2012-10-31 Thread Arc Riley
I've been writing an Apache module for implementing this and have been making notes regarding the working draft as I go. I also have some examples to contribute. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > FYI. > > > - O

[Standards] XMPP OAuth2 login at Google

2012-09-11 Thread Arc Riley
FYI, Google recently documented their X-OAUTH2 SASL method; https://developers.google.com/talk/jep_extensions/oauth

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread Arc Riley
There isn't one. Much of this XEP would work a lot better as a wiki page. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:51 PM, dmex wrote: > What's the point of including it on the document when it's not finalized > and > has potential patent claims? >

[Standards] XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) MTI

2011-06-15 Thread Arc Riley
I'm concerned about the MTI audio codec specified in this XEP (G.711). A mantra of the IETF (and many standards bodies) is "rough consensus and running code". We've reached rough consensus on an MTI audio codec, and this is good, but based on the discussion on the Jingle list I do not believe we

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: > I agree but if file attachment already in XEP we have to specify how > client could upload it. Am I wrong? The XEP is in "experimental" status, something being in the current XEP does not mean it must remain there. I believe that file att

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: > > > some files. But I never heard of the XEP-0135, will read it as soon as > > possible. Anyway, by looking at it quickly, it gives me some ideas about > > how we could manage photo albums/file albums to extend XMPP social > > features! > > 1

Re: [Standards] updated Sensors proposal

2011-05-18 Thread Arc Riley
A group of us with HacDC were working on a similar system to what Nathan proposed for our sensors project; PubSub (in our case, with presence=subscription and body-xslt so it works from non-pubsub clients) and AdHoc Commands for, well, commands. That project has been idle for a few months now, but

Re: [Standards] DEFERRED: XEP-0248 (PubSub Collection Nodes)

2010-06-16 Thread Arc Riley
Ping. It doesn't appear that any work has been done on this since last Fall. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 9/12/09 12:51 AM, Jason wrote: > > This saddens me too. > > No one has died. Let's not get too sad. :)

Re: [Standards] SXE redux

2010-06-15 Thread Arc Riley
Is there any effort to collaborate with the Infinote developers? http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Infinote On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Over the last few months I've been working with Tom Pusateri on some > updates to the Shared XML Editing spec, based on his impleme

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Gaming

2009-04-21 Thread Arc Riley
> But if several people don't expect that under the title "Multi-User > Gaming" then we should look for a more appropriate title. Cool, we're in agreement then. I think the key point here is to contrast it with multiuser games where players use XMPP for chat and negotiate server connections via

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Gaming

2009-04-15 Thread Arc Riley
and wrote: > On Wed Apr 15 22:22:44 2009, Arc Riley wrote: > >> I'd like to repeat my earlier request for the title of this XEP to specify >> "in-band" gaming >> >> >> I hate the expression "in-band", actually, but "Multiplayer ga

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Gaming

2009-04-15 Thread Arc Riley
I'd like to repeat my earlier request for the title of this XEP to specify "in-band" gaming thanks On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Multi-User Gaming > > Abstract: This document defines a

Re: [Standards] Proto-XEP: Game Support (Multi-user Games)

2008-06-25 Thread Arc Riley
> Is there any information available about your game engine? Also, I'm not > sure what you mean by "metaservers". http://www.pysoy.org/ In most networked game setups, game servers run the game, metaservers provide a central directory of servers which game clients connect to for a list. Our inte

Re: [Standards] Proto-XEP: Game Support (Multi-user Games)

2008-06-24 Thread Arc Riley
We're building our game engine to use XMPP for "metaservers" and game announcements. The extensions you proposed handle a small niche of games, I'm envisioning games like Go, Chess, and Blackjack working well with this, but those games could run just as well with game specific extensions running t