Re: [Standards] Join and Create

2017-03-22 Thread Daurnimator
On 23 March 2017 at 01:40, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 22.03.2017 12:53, Steve Kille wrote: >> I think that keeping Create and Join separate is the right thing. > > They can and should be separate, but I think there needs to be a third > operation "join-and-maybe-create". Otherwise the protocol is

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0368 (SRV records for XMPP over TLS)

2017-01-29 Thread Daurnimator
On 29 January 2017 at 04:26, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0368 (SRV > records for XMPP over TLS). > > Abstract: This specification defines a procedure to look up > xmpps-client/xmpps-server SRV records (for TLS connections) in

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0333 (Chat Markers)

2017-01-29 Thread Daurnimator
On 29 January 2017 at 04:25, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0333 (Chat > Markers). > > Abstract: This specification describes a solution of marking the last > received, displayed and acknowledged message in a chat. > > URL: http

Re: [Standards] Secure Attribution of Mediated MUC Invitations

2017-01-24 Thread Daurnimator
On 25 January 2017 at 00:15, Georg Lukas wrote: > Are there any real-world use cases (or implementations) that use bare > JID or occupant JID in mediated invitations? If no, I would like to > mandate in XEP-0045 that the full JID has to be used, thus allowing the > invitee to verify the sender (se

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0300 (Use of Cryptographic Hash Functions in XMPP)

2016-11-01 Thread Daurnimator
On 30 October 2016 at 08:37, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0300 (Use > of Cryptographic Hash Functions in XMPP). > > Abstract: This document provides recommendations for the use of cryptographic > hash functions in XMPP protoco

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Daurnimator
On 7 September 2016 at 01:15, Steve Kille wrote: > Daurnimator, > > Thanks for your comments. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of >> Daurnimator >> Sent: 06 September 2016 09:00 >> To:

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Daurnimator
On 6 September 2016 at 00:59, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been > released. > > Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP > protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple us

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 join when already in MUC

2016-06-27 Thread Daurnimator
On 24 June 2016 at 16:55, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> On 23 Jun 2016, at 23:35, Georg Lukas wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> TL;DR: whenever a client (re)sends a join, the MUC service should return >> everything a newly joining client needs to know. >> >> According to XEP-0045, an initial join presence needs t

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 join when already in MUC

2016-06-23 Thread Daurnimator
On 24 June 2016 at 08:35, Georg Lukas wrote: > Hi, > > TL;DR: whenever a client (re)sends a join, the MUC service should return > everything a newly joining client needs to know. > > According to XEP-0045, an initial join presence needs to contain an 'x' > element with 'http://jabber.org/protocol/

Re: [Standards] Mediated MUC invitations for someone already in room

2016-06-23 Thread Daurnimator
On 24 June 2016 at 02:17, Brian Cully wrote: > OTOH, since it’s a mediated invitation, the MUC service already has > state about pending invitations and room occupants. It is not required for a room to store any information about pending invitations. _

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0322 (Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) Format)

2014-10-22 Thread Daurnimator
On 22 October 2014 09:57, Tobias Markmann wrote: > I think using a more secure hash function would be beneficial for reducing > code. Secure wireless constrained applications are likely to already > include a high security cryptographic hash function. Using this hash > function would avoid the ne

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313, MUC archives, and code?

2014-06-20 Thread Daurnimator
On 20 June 2014 10:29, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Nothing to panic about there. A few implementations exist, and I think the > authors will be updating the spec soon. > > > We are using MUC to handle posting comments and we need to do infinite >> scrolling backward in the room archive. Nothing i

[Standards] XEP-0045 Issues

2014-04-24 Thread Daurnimator
Hi List, I'm a new subscriber, so I don't have the thread to reply to. I recently re-wrote much of the MUC library used in prosody. While doing so, I made a list of ambiguities and issues with the MUC specification (XEP-0045) Regards, Daurnimator. 7.8.2 "The itself MUST t