Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-17 Thread Georg Lukas
* Jonas Schäfer [2020-03-17 17:28]: > - Are clients allowed to reply receipt requests when fetching messages from > MAM? I think they are, despite the wording in the text (which IMO only > considers the user browsing an archive), but I guess the wording needs > cleaning up. In my

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-17 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Dienstag, 3. März 2020 18:45:44 CET Jonas Schäfer wrote: > The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0184 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions: > > 1. What software

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-08 Thread Sam Whited
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, at 12:45, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > 1. What software has XEP-0184 implemented? I just implemented receipts for the Mellium XMPP library (2 clause BSD style license, although possibly changing to Apache 2 in the near future): https://godoc.org/mellium.im/xmpp/receipts > 2.

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-06 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
пт, 6 мар. 2020 г. в 15:51, Georg Lukas : > > * Andrew Nenakhov [2020-03-06 11:10]: > > It is not possible to determine with Delivery Receipts either. If you > > were offline when they were sent, you will not receive them. > > If the recipient was offline when the messages were sent, a client > >

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-06 Thread Georg Lukas
* Andrew Nenakhov [2020-03-06 11:10]: > It is not possible to determine with Delivery Receipts either. If you > were offline when they were sent, you will not receive them. > If the recipient was offline when the messages were sent, a client > won't send the receipts too. So, it is only

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-06 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
пт, 6 мар. 2020 г. в 13:39, : > > Hello! > > No, it's impossible to determine, if the message was delivered with Chat > Markers, 'cause Chat Markers allows you to send marker not for every message. > So, if you didn't receive "RECEIVED" marker for a message but received the > marker for the

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-06 Thread yagiza
Hello!No, it's impossible to determine, if the message was delivered with Chat Markers, 'cause Chat Markers allows you to send marker not for every message. So, if you didn't receive "RECEIVED" marker for a message but received the marker for the next one, you have to consider the first message

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-04 Thread Sam Whited
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, at 12:45, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > 3. Is the text of XEP-0184 clear and unambiguous? Are more examples >needed? Is the conformance language (MAY/SHOULD/MUST) appropriate? >Have developers found the text confusing at all? Please describe >any suggestions you have for

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-04 Thread Kevin Smith
On 3 Mar 2020, at 17:45, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > > The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0184 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions: > > 1. What

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-04 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 11:10, Philipp Hörist : > > > > Am Di., 3. März 2020 um 21:19 Uhr schrieb Andrew Nenakhov > : >> >> >> I think this XEP should be obsoleted in favour of XEP-0333 Chat >> Markers, which does all that XEP-0184 does, plus something more. > Why would someone depreacte a spec that

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-03 Thread Philipp Hörist
Am Di., 3. März 2020 um 21:19 Uhr schrieb Andrew Nenakhov < andrew.nenak...@redsolution.com>: > > I think this XEP should be obsoleted in favour of XEP-0333 Chat > Markers, which does all that XEP-0184 does, plus something more. > > Why would someone depreacte a spec that is implemented in nearly

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-03 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
We have it implemented in 'read' mode, so all our clients can receive delivery receipts, but never send them. I think this XEP should be obsoleted in favour of XEP-0333 Chat Markers, which does all that XEP-0184 does, plus something more. вт, 3 мар. 2020 г. в 22:46, Jonas Schäfer : > > The XEP

[Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0184: Message Delivery Receipts

2020-03-03 Thread XSF Editor
The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0184 before presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions: 1. What software has XEP-0184 implemented? Please note that the protocol must be