Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Philipp Hörist
btw the Gajim default blocking option should work in 0.16.7 perfectly together with blocking command, just for info. On Topic i think nobody uses Privacy Lists .. like with different lists and setting active this and that and creating cool special rules. At least not in Gajim. Its also very ineff

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Sam Whited
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > I'm in favour of deprecation (but not elimination). I forgot there was a difference, but I used the word I meant purely by accident. To make sure it's absolutely clear: I am advocating that we move XEP-0016 to the "Deprecated" stage describ

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Ruslan N. Marchenko
On 23.03.2017 14:18, Dave Cridland wrote: On 22 March 2017 at 20:08, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote: On 22.03.2017 20:37, Sam Whited wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a while group. Ah yes! I k

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Ruslan N. Marchenko
On 23.03.2017 14:41, Travis Burtrum wrote: Hi all, On 03/22/2017 04:08 PM, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote: List allows you creating overriding allow entry which will unblock single person while keeping the group blocked (order matters). So does keeping the UI option to block a whole group, and th

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Travis Burtrum
Hi all, On 03/22/2017 04:08 PM, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote: > List allows you creating overriding allow entry which will unblock > single person while keeping the group blocked (order matters). So does keeping the UI option to block a whole group, and then just using the blocking command to indivi

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Dave Cridland
On 22 March 2017 at 20:08, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote: > > On 22.03.2017 20:37, Sam Whited wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Yann Leboulanger >> wrote: >>> >>> One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a >>> while group. >> >> >> Ah yes! I knew there was som

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-23 Thread Dave Cridland
On 22 March 2017 at 19:08, Sam Whited wrote: > I'd love your thoughts before I bring this before the council for a vote. I'm in favour of deprecation (but not elimination). * Privacy lists are mammothly complicated, and therefore error-prone. * While it's possible to implement many complex user

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-22 Thread Ruslan N. Marchenko
On 22.03.2017 20:37, Sam Whited wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a while group. Ah yes! I knew there was something else that I was forgetting to address from last time. I also think this is

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-22 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 22. März 2017 14:37:07 CET Sam Whited wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > > One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a > > while group. > > Ah yes! I knew there was something else that I was forgetting to > address from la

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-22 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a > while group. Ah yes! I knew there was something else that I was forgetting to address from last time. I also think this is not a good thing; it is an abuse of ros

Re: [Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-22 Thread Yann Leboulanger
One nice feature we also don't have with blocking command is blocking a while group. -- Yann Le 22/03/2017 à 20:08, Sam Whited a écrit : > TL;DR — Privacy lists don't give us anything that we actually want to > have that the blocking command doesn't give us already, and they're > too complicat

[Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists (again)

2017-03-22 Thread Sam Whited
TL;DR — Privacy lists don't give us anything that we actually want to have that the blocking command doesn't give us already, and they're too complicated. Hi all, I would like to restart the discussion on deprecating XEP-0016: Privacy Lists [1] in favor of XEP-0191: Blocking Command [2]. Current