Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2023-02-19 Thread JC Brand
Hi All Thanks to everyone who responded with feedback on the XEP-0425 Last Call, especially Marvin for the well founded criticism and helpful suggestions. I've made a PR which I believe addresses the main criticisms and suggestions. https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1271 To recap: 1. Remov

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2022-01-04 Thread Georg Lukas
> 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes, this is a needed use case. > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? No. This has been pointed out by Marvin very well, so not g

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 03:51:27PM -, Jonas Schäfer wrote: This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0425. Title: Message Moderation Abstract: This specification defines a method for groupchat moderators to moderate messages. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-042

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Philipp Hörist
Hi, Thanks Marvin for that feedback, i have to say i missed all those issues. I would consider the IQ issue the biggest issue, from an xmpp lib standpoint, i want to parse the namespace of the child and then route the stanza to a very specific codepath or handler. Making this a generic element wh

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Marvin W
Hi, Answering the standard questions first. > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes. > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? No. The introduction explains different

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Philipp Hörist
Hi, looking again through the standard i noticed two things Example 8, misses the moderate namespace on the moderated tag and the other thing is more of a design consideration The data is in 3 different pairing of tags 1. moderate - retract (Client sends this) 2. moderated - retract (Server se

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Philipp Hörist
> > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? > Yes > > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? > Yes > 3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, >

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread Matthew Wild
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 16:00, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0425. > > Title: Message Moderation > Abstract: > This specification defines a method for groupchat moderators to > moderate messages. > > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0425 (Message Moderation)

2021-12-07 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0425. Title: Message Moderation Abstract: This specification defines a method for groupchat moderators to moderate messages. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0425.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of