Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Langfeld
On 10 April 2015 at 13:01, Dave Cridland wrote: > On 9 April 2015 at 23:24, Ben Langfeld wrote: > >> >> On 9 April 2015 at 16:58, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> >>> On 09.04.2015 18:59, Ben Langfeld wrote: >>> > Florian, my concerns with your approach are twofold: >>> > >>> > 1. It is complicated an

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 09.04.2015 18:59, Ben Langfeld wrote: > Florian, my concerns with your approach are twofold: > > 1. It is complicated and is not markup in the sense that is used by XML, > HTML, SSML, etc. Being abstracted means a complicated association step. Yep, it's more complicated then just adding anothe

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Ben Langfeld
Florian, my concerns with your approach are twofold: 1. It is complicated and is not markup in the sense that is used by XML, HTML, SSML, etc. Being abstracted means a complicated association step. 2. It does not accurately correlate. Imagine this example: Hi Joe Bloggs. How are you? Oh, and

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 09.04.2015 06:10, Mel Adamaitis wrote: > Problem: > > In an XMPP IM client we are working on, it is necessary for mentions of > other users (for alerting, highlighting) to be based on a normalised > user identity, but displayed in a denormalized human-readable format. > Additionally, for a part

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Kevin Smith
On 9 Apr 2015, at 09:24, Dave Cridland wrote: > Adding a (private) disco feature and checking for it in caps would be better. > Then, by all means, add custom attributes and markup. +1 /K

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Dave Cridland
On 9 April 2015 at 08:27, Kevin Smith wrote: > 1) I’m not sure that adding data-* to XEP-0071 would aid interoperability, > as the use of the data-* needs to be understood by both ends (e.g. in your > case it isn’t enough for xep71 to just say ‘you can use data-*’, because a > third-party client

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-09 Thread Kevin Smith
On 9 Apr 2015, at 05:10, Mel Adamaitis wrote: > > Problem: > In an XMPP IM client we are working on, it is necessary for mentions of other > users (for alerting, highlighting) to be based on a normalised user identity, > but displayed in a denormalized human-readable format. Additionally, for

[Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-08 Thread Mel Adamaitis
Problem: In an XMPP IM client we are working on, it is necessary for mentions of other users (for alerting, highlighting) to be based on a normalised user identity, but displayed in a denormalized human-readable format. Additionally, for a particular denormalized identity, there may be any number