[Standards] Proposal against spam

2023-03-06 Thread Daniel Poelzleithner
Hi, I was a long time xmpp user, but spam in the recent years drove me away, which is kind of sad. Some time ago, I had following idea how to effectively fight spam. * Each account can upload a set of webassembly blobs * There is a list of hooks, the user can assign WA functions to events:

Re: [Standards] Proposal against spam

2023-03-06 Thread Matthew Wild
Hi Daniel, On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 17:17, Daniel Poelzleithner wrote: > I was a long time xmpp user, but spam in the recent years drove me away, > which is kind of sad. Yes, it is. Come back! :) The reality is that most people on XMPP actually don't experience spam. However, once you get your JID

Re: [Standards] Proposal against spam

2023-03-07 Thread Peter Waher
Hello We use the following simple rules in our clients to avoid spam: 1. Normal and Chat Messages received from JIDS without an approved presence subscription are automatically rejected, unless there’s a valid exception registered in the client. (I.e. a white-list instead of a black-list is

Re: [Standards] Proposal against spam

2023-03-07 Thread Peter Waher
To that, I might also add: 1. Nuicanse presence subscriptions can be blocked/reported using existing XEPs 2. In our most secure implementations, we also include additional legal identity and public cryptographic keys in presence subscriptions, allowing for E2EE as a mechanism to avoid sp