Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Or: - company policy forbids p2p file transfer - server-side virus checking desired/required before download It is difficult to define consistent requirements for consumer-oriented services on the open internet and employee-oriented services within enterprise deployments. Virus scanning coul

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Hello On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:41:43AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > - company policy forbids p2p file transfer > - server-side virus checking desired/required before download Couldn't it be solved like this: 1) One of them has a public IP -> does an HTTP server, the onther one gets/puts 2

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Olivier Goffart wrote: > Le vendredi 14 septembre 2007, Michal 'vorner' Vaner a écrit : >> Hello >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: >>> Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer >> With some more thinking, I have few more things that would be good to >> hav

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

For sending a file to multiple recipients something BitTorrent like could be used too, which bases on Jingle and ICE if someone is willing to write down a XEP. But maybe that's beyond the usual IM P2P features. ;) Cheers Tobias On 9/14/07, Olivier Goffart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le vendred

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

thinking loud, It may be better to increase the message types and making use cases and rules around it for rest all needs. ex: is i can call somebody and the other person can respond with a text message or add voice to a shared whiteboard session or share my notes in a voice session thanx unni

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

On 14 Sep 2007, at 21:59, Unnikrishnan V wrote: The shared white board and file transfer thread looks to me like we need a more generic session protocol which is capable of doing 1) Whiteboard 2) File transfer 3) Voice/ Video 4) chat and MUC mostly based on the than ( it looks the core

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

The shared white board and file transfer thread looks to me like we need a more generic session protocol which is capable of doing 1) Whiteboard 2) File transfer 3) Voice/ Video 4) chat and MUC mostly based on the than ( it looks the core requirement is to "work with with the message sessio

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Matthew Wild wrote: > On 9/13/07, *Tobias Markmann* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Exactly. You can't expect an IM client to handle transfers of CD or > DVD image sized files. For these large files protocols like > BitTorrent have been developed and work re

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Tobias Markmann wrote: I use if for direct file transfers of big files too because the BitTorrent clients are able to continue abort transfers and validate the transferred data via hashs. As far as I know none of the protocols listed in the proposed XEP support continue abort/paused transfers b

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Hello On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:39:13AM +0200, Tobias Markmann wrote: > I use if for direct file transfers of big files too because the BitTorrent > clients are able to continue abort transfers and validate the transferred > data via hashs. As far as I know none of the protocols listed in the > p

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Le vendredi 14 septembre 2007, Michal 'vorner' Vaner a écrit : > Hello > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > > Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer > > With some more thinking, I have few more things that would be good to > have: > > • Serverless mode (fo

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

I use if for direct file transfers of big files too because the BitTorrent clients are able to continue abort transfers and validate the transferred data via hashs. As far as I know none of the protocols listed in the proposed XEP support continue abort/paused transfers but in SOCKS5 there is an op

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Hello On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer With some more thinking, I have few more things that would be good to have: • Serverless mode (for link-local) • Doesn't go to server and back on LAN (If you have bad internet

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Hello On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:50:15PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > > Hello > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > >> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > >> > >> Title: Requirements fo

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

On 9/13/07, Tobias Markmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Exactly. You can't expect an IM client to handle transfers of CD or DVD > image sized files. For these large files protocols like BitTorrent have been > developed and work really nice on doing that. > I found myself receiving a file over 2

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Exactly. You can't expect an IM client to handle transfers of CD or DVD image sized files. For these large files protocols like BitTorrent have been developed and work really nice on doing that. On 9/14/07, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > > Hello > >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > Hello > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: >> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. >> >> Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer > > May I add that it is sometime desirable to transfer large files,

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

Hello On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:39:46PM -0500, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer May I add that it is sometime desirable to transfer large files, so they must go "trough" and not get sav

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Requirements for IM File Transfer

The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Requirements for IM File Transfer Abstract: This document describes requirements and approaches for the design of a sustainable XMPP-based file transfer protocol. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rift.html The XM