Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-21 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Jul 21 05:41:31 2011, Waqas Hussain wrote: There's just one problem: This requires that vendors provide sane data. Vendors providing false or misleading data will get shot down soon enough. For commercial vendors (open source or not) such behaviour has legal impacts, so the XSF ex

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-20 Thread Kevin Smith
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Waqas Hussain wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: >> On Tue Jul 19 17:03:00 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:00:36AM +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: >>> > My plan would be that implementers would host an XML

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-20 Thread Waqas Hussain
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Tue Jul 19 17:03:00 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:00:36AM +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: >> > My plan would be that implementers would host an XML description of >> > their compliance levels, which the XSF's

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Jul 19 17:03:00 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:00:36AM +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: > My plan would be that implementers would host an XML description of > their compliance levels, which the XSF's software listings would > consume and render into the software l

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-19 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:00:36AM +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Tue Jul 19 08:09:42 2011, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:23:26PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> FYI, I've created version 0.0.2 of this ProtoXEP: > >> > >> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/compliance2012

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-19 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Jul 19 08:09:42 2011, Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:23:26PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > FYI, I've created version 0.0.2 of this ProtoXEP: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/compliance2012.html I would prefer the 'Core' term to be left for the XMPP Core. XMPP

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-19 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:23:26PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > FYI, I've created version 0.0.2 of this ProtoXEP: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/compliance2012.html I would prefer the 'Core' term to be left for the XMPP Core. XMPP is not IM only, and 'Core server' seems a good name for

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/12/11 12:46 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 7/11/11 6:26 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:26 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012 Abstract: This document defines XMPP prot

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/11/11 6:26 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:26 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor > wrote: >> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. >> >> Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012 >> >> Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol compliance levels for 2012.

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-12 Thread Matthew Wild
On 12 July 2011 07:03, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Tue Jul 12 01:26:55 2011, Waqas Hussain wrote: >> >> Why is BOSH included in the list when we say "* Support can be enabled >> via an external component or an internal server module/plugin."? Any >> XMPP compliant server would pass that, so there's

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Jul 12 01:26:55 2011, Waqas Hussain wrote: Why is BOSH included in the list when we say "* Support can be enabled via an external component or an internal server module/plugin."? Any XMPP compliant server would pass that, so there's no point in making this an explicit item. Bear in min

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-11 Thread Waqas Hussain
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:26 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012 > > Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol compliance levels for 2012. > > URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/comp

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012

2011-07-06 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2012 Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol compliance levels for 2012. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/compliance2012.html The XMPP Council will decide at its next meeting whether t