Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-07-03 Thread Hund, Johannes
, Johannes Betreff: RE: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156 Hello Johannes Well, you could start by creating one interface for an XMPP Server and one interface for an XMPP client. That interface could have methods returning basic information, perhaps something similar to what

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Waher
-Original Message- From: Hund, Johannes [mailto:johannes.h...@siemens.com] Sent: den 28 juni 2013 10:35 To: XMPP Standards Subject: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156 Hello Peter, after a brief research, I agree that UPNP might be an interesting option for XEP-0174

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-06-28 Thread Hund, Johannes
[mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] Im Auftrag von Peter Waher Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 05:45 An: XMPP Standards Betreff: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156 Hello Johannes. The thought has crossed my mind. It has been nagging me as a good thing to do, but I

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-22 Thread Peter Waher
to join an effort to create such interfaces and related XEP(s). Sincerely, Peter Waher -Original Message- From: Hund, Johannes [mailto:johannes.h...@siemens.com] Sent: den 21 maj 2013 07:30 To: XMPP Standards Subject: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156 Hello Peter

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-22 Thread Peter Waher
://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/upnp-vulnerability-exposes-50-million-network-enabled-devices-to-be-hacked-controlled-remotely/ -Original Message- From: Lance Stout [mailto:lancest...@gmail.com] Sent: den 20 maj 2013 13:51 To: XMPP Standards Subject: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-21 Thread Hund, Johannes
be solved by UPNP? Best regards, Johannes -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: standards-boun...@xmpp.org [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] Im Auftrag von Peter Waher Gesendet: Montag, 20. Mai 2013 19:16 An: XMPP Standards Betreff: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-20 Thread Peter Waher
22:09 To: XMPP Standards Cc: Peter Waher Subject: Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156 Peter, (2013-05-19 03:13), Peter Waher wrote: What about the UPnP method? Using SSDP? Creating some well defined UPnP Device interface for XMPP Servers XMPP Clients, perhaps exposing

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-20 Thread Lance Stout
On May 19, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Yusuke DOI yusuke@toshiba.co.jp wrote: (2013-05-19 03:13), Peter Waher wrote: What about the UPnP method? Using SSDP? Creating some well defined UPnP Device interface for XMPP Servers XMPP Clients, perhaps exposing the features of each device at the same

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-19 Thread Yusuke DOI
Dear Lance, I don't think ordinary browsers will use binary XML (EXI) very soon (even DNS may be omitted on IoT devices), but if you're going to make entries of alternate transport, please make room for XMPP over EXI as alternate transport binding. Next version of XEP-0322 will include the

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-19 Thread Yusuke DOI
Peter, (2013-05-19 03:13), Peter Waher wrote: What about the UPnP method? Using SSDP? Creating some well defined UPnP Device interface for XMPP Servers XMPP Clients, perhaps exposing the features of each device at the same time? Saves time as you don't have to do service discovery on each

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
+1. Yes there is a registry at IANA, I can provide pointers a bit later. Sent from mobile, might be terse On May 17, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Lance Stout lancest...@gmail.com wrote: So XEP-0156 details how to use DNS records to advertise alternative ways to connect to an XMPP server, namely BOSH

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Matthew Miller
As a self-proclaimed member of the DNS anti-proliferation league, I fully support this. (-: I'd be happy to help out this together. It would help solve some problems we are facing. - mm {mobile} On May 18, 2013 7:38 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: +1. Yes there is a registry

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Matthew Wild
On 18 May 2013 14:44, Matthew Miller linuxw...@outer-planes.net wrote: As a self-proclaimed member of the DNS anti-proliferation league, I fully support this. (-: Let's just define a way to put arbitrary TXT records in .well-known, and make way for the inevitable DNS over HTTP. As they say, if

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Kim Alvefur
On 2013-05-18 15:44, Matthew Miller wrote: As a self-proclaimed member of the DNS anti-proliferation league, I fully support this. (-: As a self-proclaimed member of the anti-HTTP resistance, I wish to express my great annoyance. :P -- Kim signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/18/13 8:50 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 18 May 2013 14:44, Matthew Miller linuxw...@outer-planes.net wrote: As a self-proclaimed member of the DNS anti-proliferation league, I fully support this. (-: Let's just define a way to put arbitrary

Re: [Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-18 Thread Peter Waher
Hello So XEP-0156 details how to use DNS records to advertise alternative ways to connect to an XMPP server, namely BOSH and soon WebSocket. That's great, except that in the browser you can't make arbitrary DNS requests, which severely limits the usefulness of this method. Any interest in

[Standards] Using .well-known/ to supplement XEP-0156

2013-05-17 Thread Lance Stout
So XEP-0156 details how to use DNS records to advertise alternative ways to connect to an XMPP server, namely BOSH and soon WebSocket. That's great, except that in the browser you can't make arbitrary DNS requests, which severely limits the usefulness of this method. Any interest in