Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-22 Thread Alexander Holler
Am 22.09.2011 01:23, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 21.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the room, Section 10.7 is less clear of what happens on loss

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Alexander Holler
Am 21.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the room, Section 10.7 is less clear of what happens on loss of admin privs. 10.7 says: If the user is in the room, the service MUST then send updated

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 21.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the room, Section 10.7 is less clear of what happens on loss of admin privs. 10.7 says: If the

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/21/11 5:23 PM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 21.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the room, Section 10.7 is less clear of what happens on loss

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: Personally, I think the occupant which loss admin privs to a member-only room ought to be kicked.  Others might think otherwise. Why not transition from admin to mere member? I don't see a reason to kick or ban

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/21/11 5:37 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: Personally, I think the occupant which loss admin privs to a member-only room ought to be kicked. Others might think otherwise. Why not transition from admin to mere member?

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 9/21/11 5:23 PM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 21.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Kurt Zeilenga: While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 9/21/11 5:37 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: Personally, I think the occupant which loss admin privs to a member-only room ought to be kicked. Others might think

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Wild
On 22 September 2011 00:46, Kurt Zeilenga kurt.zeile...@isode.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: However I would consider it reasonable in a members-only room for removal from the Owners List or the Admins List to result in adding that person to the Members

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 22 September 2011 00:46, Kurt Zeilenga kurt.zeile...@isode.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: However I would consider it reasonable in a members-only room for removal from the Owners List or the Admins

Re: [Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/21/11 7:02 PM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 22 September 2011 00:46, Kurt Zeilenga kurt.zeile...@isode.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: However I would consider it reasonable in a members-only room for

[Standards] admin-none, what happens to user if in member-only room

2011-09-20 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
While XEP 45, Section 9.4 is reasonable clear that loss of membership causes a kick from the room, Section 10.7 is less clear of what happens on loss of admin privs. 10.7 says: If the user is in the room, the service MUST then send updated presence from this individual to all occupants,