Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:55:01AM -0500, Nelson, Laird wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Rosenblum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > how do you people live without the refactoring tools > > provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? > > We type fast. :-) > > No, but seriously:

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

> -Original Message- > From: Jason Rosenblum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > how do you people live without the refactoring tools > provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? We type fast. :-) No, but seriously: I'm stupid enough that if I don't do the refactoring myself, laborious line by

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

://www.phase.ws > -Original Message- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:01 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts > > > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

If you are not using vim, you don't know vi. At 01:00 PM 12/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... at l

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:43:35 -0600 LOL - which is one reason why I pr

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Many years ago, it took me about five minutes after starting to use Emacs with a PC keyboard that I had to get the Ctrl and CapsLock keys switched. It's much easier once you get that done. > -Original Message- > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Eddi

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Eddie Bush wrote: > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. > 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on > windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... > at least, I think vim has one now (or can p

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

how do you people live without the refactoring tools provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? ~Jason --- Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I > much prefer Emacs. > 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x > terminal (or are on > win

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

gt; > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:15 AM > > To: Struts Developers List > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts > > > > > > Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents... > > > > With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

se Web and Multimedia P (406) 862-2245 F (406) 862-0354 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phase.ws > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Tomasini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:15 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why ar

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Here, here! \C-c SPC Esc-> \M-x indent-region I'm reminded of being a lab assistant when I was still in school. "Kids" that were taking programming 1 for their "foreign language" credits would constantly as "Why is this doing that?" type of questions -- *many* of which could have been easily r

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents... With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant, and Perl you can conquer the world faster than with any IDE I know of. And conquer it from pretty much any shell - bash, X, even Windows! Plus, Emacs is great for cleaning up messy code. Its inden

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

> -Original Message- > From: Phase Web and Multimedia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Wow, are guys geezers? vi!? emacs!? I just use my ssh secure shell by > ssh.com and use the file browser to locate the file and edit > it locally then > when i click save it conveniently loads it back on the

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:01 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts > > > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. > 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps - nearly certain). I suppose that's for

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

L PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:43:35 -0600 LOL - which is one reason why I prefer Emacs :-) ... that, and, for the astute observer, Emacs shows you how to *exit* as soon as you start it (assuming you open it with no arguments)!

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

LOL - which is one reason why I prefer Emacs :-) ... that, and, for the astute observer, Emacs shows you how to *exit* as soon as you start it (assuming you open it with no arguments)!! If there's one thing I dispise, it's getting trapped in a )@(#%*& program - and, yes, when I was first lear