Hi,
have we reached any consensus on this?
IMO, the journal today is pretty similar to an activity, and so much
that I think that treating it as an special case when alt-tabbing
brings more confusion than benefits. But I don't have a real strong
position on this.
Perhaps someone that cares
See:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap#Goals
The high level goals and features are pretty much defined in my
opinion. We will refine the implementations plans and update the
status in the next planning meetings. Feel free to send feedback
either on the wiki or on the mailing list.
My
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:21:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
have we reached any consensus on [alt-tabbing to the Journal]?
No, based on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6251
Perhaps someone that cares about changing the current behavior could
do a summary of the arguments on each side?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the alternative of refactoring the desired functionality out
of Browse into a new module is seen as too cumbersome for our limited
resources?
Hmmm one option would be to keep hulahop generic (it's not fully
generic
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:55:09AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.
I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I often don't
have a dedicated key to access the Journal. I would need to
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 15:30, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:55:09AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.
I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 03:37:02PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 15:30, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:55:09AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
Alt-Tab than the dedicated
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
hulahop is already a dependency of the Browse activity but I think we
should add it to the Glucose module set. The reason I didn't add it
originally is that I wanted to try and keep it a generic component,
Sorry but cannot think of any worthwhile suggestion to give you right now.
Have you made any advances on the last two days?
Regards,
Tomeu
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Pierre Métras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I've learnt Python and Pygtk writing the Clock activity
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
Hello!
there is time until October 29 to propose new modules, and new
activities in particular, to be part of the 0.84 release. If you are
an activity maintainer and would like to propose its inclusion please
send mail to this list, providing the following
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I have written up an algorithm for quasi-optimal placement of items in the
Mesh View. It involves linear algebra. I have actually implemented it,
in less than 100
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 10:19:20AM -0400, Pierre Métras wrote:
Hello,
I've learnt Python and Pygtk writing the Clock activity
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clock_activity) and I'm now adding a new feature
to write the time in full letters to help children learn how to write and
read
it. The
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:55:09AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.
I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I often don't
have a dedicated key to access the Journal.
I take your
I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I often don't
have a dedicated key to access the Journal. I would need to resort to
opening the Frame and then clicking on the Journal icon--too many
steps. Speaking personally, having come from the wonderful world of
Emacs, I tend to be
Hello!
there is time until October 29 to propose new modules, and new
activities in particular, to be part of the 0.84 release. If you are
an activity maintainer and would like to propose its inclusion please
send mail to this list, providing the following informations. There a
bunch of
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here we come against initial expectations.
The whole concept of Sugar is that the user doesn't need to
explicitly save files. They are automatically kept in the Sugar
datastore, and are accessed through the Journal
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That sounds good to me. The only concern I have is that putting the
web API in sugar-toolkit may give it more officiality than what we
can really support?
Perhaps that code will need to be updated quite often as we add
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:49:25AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mikus wrote:
- First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu.
When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short
Title to identify
Hello,
hulahop is already a dependency of the Browse activity but I think we
should add it to the Glucose module set. The reason I didn't add it
originally is that I wanted to try and keep it a generic component,
which could be useful outside Sugar, to decrease maintenance costs.
Now I think
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Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
| On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I have written up an algorithm for quasi-optimal placement of items in the
| Mesh View.
...
| I am not sure whether this algorithm is of use for
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am concerned that focusing on such systems is breaking simple use
cases and causing problems for users in the field. I believe that this
functionality is important, but do not agree that it should comprise the
base layer
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
It may not be enough to work on the performance problem from within the
existing framework. How will we know if this is the case?
We will spend more
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
It may not be enough to work on the performance problem from within the
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
one of the core points of Sugar's design (There are no files, folders,
or
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
It may
Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
one of the core points of Sugar's
It's important to me that the Journal be one click (yes, click; not
just keystroke) away when the child boots the laptop. The current
activity gets positioned here under the XO, so in the current paradigm
this happens implicitly. I suppose you could argue that the Journal
still gets shown
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:20:04AM -0400, elana langer wrote:
Hey Tech Community-
I just wanted to give y'all some feedback from my experience in
Mongolia. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Please excuse my
lay
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Eben and other sugarites,
I'm trying to find a simple way to add some version support to the
journal, but for that I need to know what's the sweetest
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Guys,
This is a great discussion and very helpful design interaction!
Just sampling a few items on this thread I have two high level comments:
1 - The primary requirement for the Journal is to never lose data. I
think
Hello,
I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer Activity
into Fructose:
* Short description of the features:
Image Viewer with the following features
* Rotate
* Zoom
* Fullscreen display
* Screenshots or screencasts.
Also:
4. The zoom level metaphor is specifically meant to convey the idea of
physical spaces.
In the top 3, we're looking out at a plane with people spread across
it. In the bottom one (activity), we're zoomed in onto our desk, so
to speak, with a single activity taking over the entire
sources:
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/web-activity/Browse-99.tar.bz2
bundled:
http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82.1/Browse-99.xo
- translation update
- Remove x permissions from activity.info (needed for fedora packaging)
Best,
Simon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest that we proceed as following:
1 Next week we are planning to land Tomeu datastore rewrite. It's a
drop in replacement with no API changes, which should allow us to have
a solid, simple datastore in 0.84
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elana langer wrote:
| a) In response to the question about the Mesh - there are a whole
| bunch of issues that come up. -- to use acoustic measure only two
| computers can be on at a time so it makes the tool almost impossible
| to use in a class or
Thank you!
I added your proposal here:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap#Proposed_modules
Cheers,
Marc
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer Activity
into Fructose:
* Short
is there anything like a poster/flyer in high resolution PDF?
p.
Samuel Klein wrote:
This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please
help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this
year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CCing the Sugar list.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming
too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K of
On 7 Oct 2008, at 16:31, Eben Eliason wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:21:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
have we reached any consensus on [alt-tabbing to the Journal]?
No, based on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6251
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CCing the Sugar list.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without
Hello,
It looks like reading PDF files from the web via Browse is a pain,
since, Browse saves the file to Journal, and then one has to go to the
Journal and open up the saved file via Read (#8330). Can we treat PDF
files like we handle media files (oggs mostly) by means of a Browse
plugin ?
I
Fully qualified names (file names) are simple. They are misused to the
extent that users give things strange or confusing names. But, the
names are qualified and the users can encounter their work simply by
remembering most components of the name. The concept is
straightforward: given this
Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
Hey all,
someone at university here is currently planning an activity and asked me
which pygame version Sugar is currently using.
Neither he nor I couldn't really find any information on it on [[Pygame]] or
[[Software components]] or the more recent archives...
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
Hey all,
someone at university here is currently planning an activity and asked me
which pygame version Sugar is currently using.
Neither he nor I couldn't really find any information on
marco pesenti gritti wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CCing the Sugar list.
and adding devel.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming
On Tuesday 07 October 2008 10:30, Erik Garrison wrote:
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 10:19:20AM -0400, Pierre Métras wrote:
Hello,
I've learnt Python and Pygtk writing the Clock activity
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clock_activity) and I'm now adding a new
feature to write the time in full
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sugar offers an excellent mode for discovery but no excellent way to
manipulate narratives. Both discovery and narrative are essential for
learning. [1]
I am catching up with this. What Bryan writes is correct, but I
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Offline moodle needs a lot of work to get working properly and really
doesn't receive the attention it deserves.
Not yet :-) but attention to Offline Moodle will increase...
Offline moodle currently does not work very at all
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:21:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
have we reached any consensus on [alt-tabbing to the Journal]?
[some pros and cons]
You
2) the Journal always appearing below the XO icon
If only. But only at first boot. The icon below the XO icon is always
whatever activity currently selected in the Activity View.
The bottom line is that, at least as far as the XO is concerned (and
other machines with limited memory and no swap)
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:02:57PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
marco pesenti gritti wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CCing the Sugar list.
and adding devel.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
XO and Sugar.
[...]
To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
following:
[...]
2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IMAP
2) the Journal always appearing below the XO icon
If only. But only at first boot. The icon below the XO icon is always
whatever activity currently selected in the Activity View.
Except for a bug (which I've ticketed) - the icon of an Activity
which failed to launch still persists below the
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:51:50PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
2) the Journal always appearing below the XO icon
If only. But only at first boot. The icon below the XO icon is always
whatever activity currently selected in the Activity View.
The bottom line is that, at least as far as the
I'm not comfortable with the value of supporting multiple versions
within the datastore. Why should the run-of-the-mill user need to
refer to obsolete versions of the information in the datastore ?
being able to inspect the intermediate states is important
for reflecting about the creation
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