[sugar] transfer pictures from Journal to USB

2008-12-08 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
is there a simple way to simply transfer the whole content of the Journal into an USB stick? I care for the pictures, but I don't mind sorting them out in my Ubuntu box later. Of course I have visited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Copy_to_and_from_the_Journal and tried copy-to-journal.py

[sugar] [OT] Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC + Sugar

2008-12-04 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Christ, know I am too weak, selfish and coward to do a good job at it, but I keep trying. Bernie Innocenti wrote: Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Ed mentions three legs. Then, in a Mandelbrothian nightmare each seems to grow quite a few more, and it's often hard to keep track and to know who

[sugar] Nationalizing Sugar

2008-12-04 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Sebastian from Sur has suggested we use Azucar as the term to refer to Sugar in Castillian speaking countries. He also suggests we keep refering to Sugarlabs (including national or local ones) using the English term. While I welcome the debate, my training leads me to believe that matters of

Re: [sugar] Sugar Design Meeting REMINDER (Now)

2008-12-04 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
OK, Ubuntu folk, how do I add UTC/GMT to my locations options in the clock/calendar thinguie? I guess I could google. well, didn't find a solution. Yama Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the details:

Re: [sugar] Sugar Design Meeting REMINDER (Now)

2008-12-04 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
redirect conversations accordingly and inform other people when needed. Thanks, Tomeu On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Ubuntu folk, how do I add UTC/GMT to my locations options in the clock/calendar thinguie? I guess I could google. well, didn't

[sugar] multiple lists

2008-12-04 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
BTW, I love this trend to sugar/olpc-specific threads, but 1) I do not have a Sugar OLPC filter in my brain. I guess there are some specific subjects, maybe hardware - OLPC, Sugar Activities and code - Sugarlabs, but what about implementation? Wetware? We could claim that OLPC Foundation

Re: [sugar] Sugar Labs introduction

2008-12-02 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
snip David Farning wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My research question has been ¿how to jumpstart an ecosystem? Hernan Pachas from the ministry, and I offer to organize volunteers for support and training, etc. At the time, they had

Re: [sugar] XO identity shared via Browse

2008-12-02 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
what about have the client send an Authorization header, in the Browse HTTP request. This is part of standard HTTP request/response http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.8 One problem that those who see the complicated future is that this exchange will only be validated

Re: [sugar] XO identity shared via Browse

2008-12-02 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
(except I just realized another kid can still see all your stuff by using your laptop) Allow me to say that this might be a good thing, as many sorts of peer accountability would. While _some_ degree of privacy does make _some_ sense, a system that would be so private that no one but the

[sugar] Drexler sings Plan Ceibal

2008-12-01 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Jorge Drexler, a noted Uruguayan singer/composer, released a song for Plan Ceibal, the OLPC/Sugar deployment in Uruguay (a spot of free translation of part of the lyrics) ...I'll go navigating by the Southern sky, without leaving my heart by the shade of the ceibo-tree... ('ceibal' is the ceibo

Re: [sugar] OLPC + Sugar

2008-11-29 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Would anyone care to start a mental map or some such easier to absorb medium that would make it clearer for the less illuminated the assorted elements of our Natural History? Ed mentions three legs. Then, in a Mandelbrothian nightmare each seems to grow quite a few more, and it's often hard

Re: [sugar] Sugar Labs introduction

2008-11-28 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
them going by the end of the week. thanks david On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that we need to see is about giving legitimacy to volunteers in countries where only if you have an official piece of paper you are to be taken into account

[sugar] Another Thanks!

2008-11-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
For me this was the first time in my life that I was in the same room with a group this large of developers and assorted geeks. In many ways it felt like a very new experience, very humbling, but also empowering, because while it was clear a lot of people was ages ahead of me, there was a

Re: [sugar] Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-11-21 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I do use my XO/Sugar for eBook reading also. Again, it definitely has issues. I am learning the non-intuitive at first go back to spot of opening through Journal. I survive sort of OK when the cursor does weird things because I pressed the mouse button when in ebook screen display . I

Re: [sugar] Collaboration day!

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
edited http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp/Schedule#Tuesday_the_18th with this data Maybe it'll end up being Content Collaboration day I for one see them very, very related and dependent on each other. Yama Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello! I'm excited that Guillaume Desmottes is joining

Re: [sugar] Collaboration day!

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
re: who will do OLE I am trying to find out right now I didn't want to preemptively grab a slot away from Ed, but I will make a note there just so nothing is left! Great work! Yama Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] Collaboration day!

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
curious on how Africa is moving. Yama Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: re: who will do OLE I am trying to find out right now I didn't want to preemptively grab a slot away from Ed, but I will make a note there just so nothing is left! Great work! Yama Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri

[sugar] OLE, was Re: Collaboration day!

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
On Tuesday OLE people are available only in the morning. I have penciled in 11:30, would that work? (wasn't able to wikify the breack in the row :-)) (this also frees the 1500 slot) Yama ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] OLE, was Re: Collaboration day!

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
They will be happy they have a full hour, I am copying this to them So, 1100 is OLE Thanks Yama Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday OLE people are available only in the morning. I have penciled in 11:30

Re: [sugar] Sugarcamp planning status

2008-11-14 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I noticed that I have a half an hour on Wednesday morning on something very related to what I have scheduled in Tuesday, so if we cannot figure out something better you may take a half hour on my slot on Tuesday. I really want to see more of the sugarstick and ltsp, it deserves some prime

Re: [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-13 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
What about making Tuesday Content/Collaboration Day? I will be leaving by early afternoon of Thursday... :-( Ed Cherlin is coming, so that would make one more for Content Day, and certainly I would be happy to tell you where OLE is at in that field, and even discuss e-learning platforms and

Re: [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-13 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
C. Scott Ananian wrote snip the whole point of this was *joint* discussion/planning! let's continue *together*, shall we? In this intention, I've added cross-links to each other activity in XOCamp-2 and Sugarcamp ___ Sugar mailing list

[sugar] New laptop.org page was Re: [IAEP] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I tried, it asked me for a password (no need, I'm good), but just let me remind y'all that the _minimum_ design constraint for the laptop.org page is that it shows right on the XO... The current one doesn't (or didn't when I tried to show it to somebody, using an XO, a couple weeks back.

[sugar] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-13 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
(from Werner Westermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Best regards from Santiago, Chile. In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-13 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I hope for a chance to see a server in action, and it would be tops if I could see a server being set up from scratch. That might even justify I take a box with me... In a Montessori way, I learn best when things happen as I do them. Yama Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07

Re: [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I'd really want us to discuss matters related to Teacher Training. I have signed up as speaker, but actually I am sure there are many others who know more about what works in that field, and what doesn't, and it would be good to document that. I can at least offer some questions...

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-06 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I might have hit with a generous donor that might pay my way... Could you confirm dates so they can get me tickets early while they are still less expensive? I would want to learn and share, and if possible/if there is interest work on Wetware issues, especially The Medium Is The Message as

Re: [sugar] [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any chance, to call us yokels of the imperialist empire, and they would have a field day if the XO delivered EFL. Of course we know that many locally

Re: [sugar] [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Ed, u r 100% on as usual. I believe we should work for tools that can help all languages, and then people can load their own preferred choices, avoiding an image issue of OLPC taking a stand that could be misconstrued by those who love to misconstrue. Those people don't care about reason,

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Control Facility Improvements

2008-10-24 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
While I dislike to add clutter, such buttons would make things more evident, a.k.a. intuitive / usable Now, genesee has a point, some of the activities are huge - how can the user make an informed decision? maybe adding the information on the size? (more clutter) Oh my, wouldn't it be

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Luke Faraone wrote: Not to mention, sugar should also target more developed nations, and one of the questions I _always_ get from teachers at talks I give is Can I print?. -lf There's a whole world of culture and ideology behind what you said, Luke. Yes, there is a need to consider

[sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Report cards on XO

2008-10-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Following with the Printing support thread, I found out that the only item that _needs_ printing in the conventional school setup is the report cards. Since I militantly believe that XO-supported education we should not depend on printing at all if it were possible, I would want to submit a

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Report cards on XO

2008-10-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
evaluation from the shared instance. That instance would then, every time they open it, simply be a viewer for that particular evaluation. This is a good example where the master-slave (usually discouraged in Sugar) would actually work. - Eben On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Report cards on XO

2008-10-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
from the shared instance. That instance would then, every time they open it, simply be a viewer for that particular evaluation. This is a good example where the master-slave (usually discouraged in Sugar) would actually work. - Eben On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Persistent activity storage

2008-10-20 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
It would be way nice it also came back to the same page, if you are reading a book Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:46:37AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Persistent activity storage

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Persistent activity storage

2008-10-20 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
:36:06PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: It would be way nice it also came back to the same page, if you are reading a book Yes, that's also a goal, though it will certainly require activity- level changes. Err - hasn't that been a requirement from the beginning? I thought that any

Re: [sugar] code contributions to Sugar (was Re: Sugar Clock)

2008-10-15 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
The hierarchy of types of decisions you mention is quite interesting. I am afraid that expediency (can be done) might end up ruling things. It is easier (or so I think) to reach consensus or at least an I-can-live-with-that in technical matters. The approach to the pedagogical view has so far

Re: [sugar] naming

2008-10-10 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
snip Anyway, another one: a NEED (yes, I mean to shout it) is that 'file' names or whatever you call them BY DEFAULT carry the author / child / machine ID, so that when that file ends up in the teacher's machine, he can figure out which one of the 35 'Write Activity' that were submitted

Re: [sugar] journal is hard

2008-10-10 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
This part of the thread is convincing me more and more of the great value of semi-transparent metatags. I.e., the kid has no need to see in _his_ machine his own name, but everyone else needs it when looking at his file. Part of our problem might be precisely our need to get out of our

[sugar] naming, was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
snip Obviously the system is full of files, and you're correct that a named chunk of data is basically what were talking about. The intent of the no files sentiment is that kids needn't (necessarily) think about named chunks of data. Instead, a child might make [this thing], and then choose

Re: [sugar] help! from Bolivia.

2008-09-09 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: os711.USB? I believe theywere activated, but I will follow up that one. this is what we have: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_PowerOn#XO_icon_with_a_serial_number_and_three_icons_below_it apparently they never were given lease.sig lists, but those

[sugar] detalles, Trasnoche de Sugar al Aymará

2008-08-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Estamos en las preparaciones finales para el evento de traducción del interfas Sugar al aymará. *Sugar* es el sistema operativo que viene de fábrica en las computadoras XO-1 del proyecto Un Laptop Por Niño http://www.laptop.org/es/[3] (OLPC en inglés). En Bolivia Soboce tendría ya un centenar

Re: [sugar] List of Peru activities

2008-06-06 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Chris, are these the names as they are used in Perú? I thought some of the names were localized? Anyway, I translated your message and forwarded it on to Sur Yama Chris Ball wrote: Hi, We've just finished putting together an image for Peru based on the update.1-703 build, and the image

Re: [sugar] List of Peru activities

2008-06-06 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Hi Sugarers, anyone with the savyy to get the activity names in the language it will actually be used_ Thanks! Yama Chris Ball wrote: Ugh. so I messed up, should have asked before posting. Sur is for end-users, bless their hearts, they couldn't care less for default files,

[sugar] es localized liveCD

2008-06-02 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I have an opportunity to share about OLPC with some people in Bolivia's Ministry of Education. Anyone care to prepare a .es localized LiveCD, hopefully with the new wikislice in Spanish? I recall a liveCD I used a while back ran in German, so it might be already out there Yama

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
In total agreement, etc, here my 2 ¢ To avoid a plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose* kind of moment, could we have the naming of such an ombudsman be an open affair, not something done behind doors? To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a person? 1.- obsessive

Re: [sugar] Patch to make Browse annoy me less.

2008-05-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
pray pardon my ignorance. talking of Browser annoyances :-) Is ad filtering to happen at the server level, or is there a way to implement it on the XO? I vote for server (one fix for all), especially if there is a simple mechanism that can update such filter info directly from the teacher XO

[sugar] Report on OLPC in Ethiopia

2008-05-15 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
AFAIK this is the first published report in a format somewhat akin to what people want to see when they ask for documented proof on how OLPC is actually operating in the field. I contrast that to blogs and PR efforts around the day of distribution of XOs.