Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gary Martin
On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:30, James Cameron wrote: > On 05/10/2010, at 10:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: >> My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer >> numbers, rather than creating a complex tree of point releases. My feeling >> is that a tree of three or more levels dee

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing 0.90 on an XO

2010-10-04 Thread James Cameron
On 05/10/2010, at 12:39 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > How do I tell what an integration issue is? There's a few methods, but they require either experience or knowledge of the software components and how they interface. If in doubt, just log the issue and let the developer analyse and re

[Sugar-devel] Testing 0.90 on an XO

2010-10-04 Thread forster
> Please use these builds only for reporting back 0.90 issues. There are surely issues that are due to integration issues. Leave them for now. How do I tell what an integration issue is? Do you only want bugs on new features and not regressions? Tony

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unwanted characters in mail to sugar-devel list serv when sending patch.

2010-10-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On 10/02/2010 02:54 AM, Shanjit Singh Jajmann wrote: > I just made patch for Issue 2324, and forwarded it to the list. A lot of > unwanted characters seem to have crept in, however when i send it to my > inbox, or any other, no such thing happens. > > Could some pointers be provided to resolve thi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread James Cameron
On 05/10/2010, at 10:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer > numbers, rather than creating a complex tree of point releases. My feeling is > that a tree of three or more levels deep adds complexity to new Learners. It > goes against

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Tim McNamara
On 5 October 2010 10:25, James Cameron wrote: > I agree with the proposal. > > -- > James Cameron > System Test Coordinator > One Laptop per Child I tentatively agree. My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer numbers, rather than creating a complex tree of point

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I agree with the proposal. +1 --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect  - ask interesting questions  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinla

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread James Cameron
I agree with the proposal. -- James Cameron System Test Coordinator One Laptop per Child ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity permissions, Object Chooser (was: Re: Advice request: XO sound recording)

2010-10-04 Thread James Simmons
Sascha, Sorry about the idiomatic English. It sounds like what you're saying the permissions would be and what I would have them be are close enough, maybe exactly the same. If I am correct then we could make a version of the Library Activity that allows a user to specify a list of Journal objec

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread James Simmons
Art, Getting a list of Journal objects that have the MIME types you want is simple. Putting this data into a table requires a fair amount of code. It isn't difficult code, but there is a lot of it. If you just want to get one entry from the table the Object Chooser would be less work for you.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Art Hunkins's message of Mon Oct 04 21:10:02 +0200 2010: > What made me think that Object Chooser was not feasible in 0.82? Ah, you seem to equate XO-1 with Sugar 0.82. That's an incorrect assumption, in both directions: Debian Lenny ships Sugar 0.82 and many XO-1s now run Sugar 0.8

Re: [Sugar-devel] Replacing Illegal character ':' in username (SL #2152)

2010-10-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 20:05 +0530, Dipankar Patro wrote: > > I am unable to find a way to connect to my network while running XS. > I actually installed XS software on VMware under Windows 7, and its > showing me CUI. Got totally confused and finally left it. :( Yes, the schoolserver is not supp

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Art Hunkins
What made me think that Object Chooser was not feasible in 0.82? This comment from a recent email of James Simmons (which I'm sure you read): "I have tried the Object Chooser. In Sugar .82 it had some serious bugs, could not list out only those entries you wanted to look at, and was slow and ugl

Re: [Sugar-devel] any patches for 0.90.1?

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Mon Oct 04 19:48:36 +0200 2010: > Can submitters reply to their own messages for those that are intended > to go in before we branch? This patch of mine is a bug fix and should go into 0.90.1: [sugar] fix recognition of JEBs outside of data store [1] Thes

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Art Hunkins's message of Mon Oct 04 19:33:19 +0200 2010: > There is the Object Chooser method, which seems to do what I need (a > *general* audio files listing is the appropriate), but is basically > inoperable on XO-1. The Object Chooser is hardware agnostic. What leads you to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Gonzalo and others, I suspect we talk past each others. But let's just leave it at that. Good luck with the proposal! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 12:50:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > >> Short version: Gogogo! >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of >>> non-integer parts. >>> >>> It might seem obvious at fir

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Don't emit buddy-removed and activity-removed before they have announced #2401

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 19:44, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Otherwise we'll get some tracebacks from the listeners of those > signals because they still don't know about those buddies or activities. Requesting inclusion in 0.90. Thanks, Tomeu > --- >  src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |    8 ++-- >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Art Hunkins
Does anyone have updated experience with Object Chooser on 0.82 and later? Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: "James Simmons" To: "Walter Bender" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording Walter, I agree that we ca

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Don't emit buddy-removed if we don't know yet its contact-id #2402

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 19:42, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Otherwise the owner icon is removed from the neighborhood view Requesting inclusion in 0.90. Thanks, Tomeu > --- >  src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |    3 ++- >  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/src/jarabe/mo

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Frederick Grose's message of Mon Oct 04 18:09:18 +0200 2010: > The SEETA Developer: field might better be adjusted to Developer:, and we > could use a convention to tag the developer's name, such as, [SEETA] Ishan What would be the difference between Owner and Developer then? Sasch

[Sugar-devel] any patches for 0.90.1?

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, there are several patches awaiting commit and review, but I don't think all of them are intended to go into 0.90. Can submitters reply to their own messages for those that are intended to go in before we branch? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel maili

[Sugar-devel] Activity permissions, Object Chooser (was: Re: Advice request: XO sound recording)

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from James Simmons's message of Mon Oct 04 16:15:32 +0200 2010: > If we get to the point where an Activity cannot list > out Journal entries (other than using the Object Chooser) at any time > then I've got a beef. I don't understand the part with the beef, but assume it's meant to mean

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Don't emit buddy-removed and activity-removed before they have announced #2401

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Otherwise we'll get some tracebacks from the listeners of those signals because they still don't know about those buddies or activities. --- src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |8 ++-- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py b/src/jarab

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Don't emit buddy-removed if we don't know yet its contact-id #2402

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Otherwise the owner icon is removed from the neighborhood view --- src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py index 478ee46..91dd059 100644 --- a/src/jarabe/model/ne

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Art Hunkins
OK, James and Sasha - then I need additional advice. There is the Object Chooser method, which seems to do what I need (a *general* audio files listing is the appropriate), but is basically inoperable on XO-1. OTOH, the FLOSS manual solution(s) would seem to be considerably more complex (is thi

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On 4 October 2010 17:09, Frederick Grose wrote: > The SEETA Developer: field might better be adjusted to Developer:, and we > could use a convention to tag the developer's name, such as, [SEETA] Ishan On a community level, I don't think its right to assign a specific developer to the task. Anyone

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 12:50:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Short version: Gogogo! Thanks! Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of non-integer parts. It might seem obvious at first - "peru" being "slight fork of micro-version 5". But perhaps sometimes a local br

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Frederick Grose
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Sascha Silbe < sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org> wrote: > Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Mon Oct 04 12:56:24 +0200 2010: > > > A change that I think can be made without asking first is the addition > > of the 1.0 milestone, but I think we still need to a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Short version: Gogogo! Thanks! > Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of non-integer > parts. > > It might seem obvious at first - "peru" being "slight fork of micro-version > 5". But perhaps sometimes a local branch wants to release a sneak preview, > e.g. "almost micro-

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:27:36AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: The new version number will consist of N integer numbers separated by dots and a suffix for a local indicator. Activity developers can still use an integer number only, if desired. Valid numbers are: 23 23.2 23.2.5 23.2.5-peru 23.2

[Sugar-devel] Testing 0.90 on an XO

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I have been doing 0.90-F14 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5. You can grab the latest build from [1]. I provide these builds that people that do have XO-hardware can start helping testing 0.90. So far, we did not have much testing yet. We just released 0.90.0 and want to do a bug fix release

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread James Simmons
frost#P_DOCUMENT:_file_store_service >>> [2] http://dev.laptop.org/git/security/tree/bitfrost.txt#n874 >>> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_dialog#Powerbox >>> [4] >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Low-level_Activity_API#Permissions_Declarations >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/04/2010 04:48 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer >> numbers. >> This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity >> version gets rather complicated. P

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer > numbers. > This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity > version gets rather complicated. People have been planning for that in > advance and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Walter Bender
sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Low-level_Activity_API#Permissions_Declarations >> [5] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#P_DOCUMENT_RO >> [6] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#Compromising_privacy_2 >> -- >> http://sascha.silbe.org/ >> http://www.inf

[Sugar-devel] Trac: added "1.0" milestone

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hi! I just added a "1.0" milestone to Trac and used it for a ticket. The intended meaning is "we should change (or at least look at) this before we declare the API 'stable' (whatever that means ;) )". If anyone has a better name for that milestone we can rename it. Similarly, if we decided to call

Re: [Sugar-devel] Replacing Illegal character ':' in username (SL #2152)

2010-10-04 Thread Dipankar Patro
Bernie, On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > If you want to ensure that I read a message intended for me, you'd > better keep me on cc. I don't read every single post sent to > sugar-devel. > > * Sorry. Will follow it from now on. > On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 00:12 +0530, Dipa

[Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer numbers. This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity version gets rather complicated. People have been planning for that in advance and reserved numbers for such a purpose in order to overcome that shor

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread James Simmons
larations > [5] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#P_DOCUMENT_RO > [6] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#Compromising_privacy_2 > -- > http://sascha.silbe.org/ > http://www.infra-silbe.de/ > -- next part --

[Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have seen that recently some changes have been made to trac outside the normal adding of users and components. I would like to request that when making those changes, that the list was notified, if the change is presumed uncontroversial. If the change has a broader effect (such as adding a fi

[Sugar-devel] Record activity. Adjusting the input level.

2010-10-04 Thread tom . staubitz
Hi, is there a way to adjust the input level of audio recordings in Record, according to the volume of the sound source? I read every piece of documentation I found[1][2]. It does not look as if this is supported? Thanks for your help, Tom Staubitz [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sug

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-99

2010-10-04 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.90 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27057/turtle_art-99.xo Release notes: This is the first post-0.90 release of Turtle Blocks. Enhancements: * reskinable turtle (#2353) lets you u

[Sugar-devel] TamTamEdit, TamTamJam, etc.

2010-10-04 Thread tom . staubitz
Hi, does any of the TamTam tools provide a possibility to save the musical output, so that it can be edited/used in an other application? Kind of a "Save as" menu? (.ogg/.mp3/.wav etc.)? I couldn't find this feature neither in documentation nor in the tools themselves. Thanks for your help, Tom

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.10.2010, at 10:11, Sascha Silbe wrote: > The Object Chooser is a powerbox [3] that will grant > your activity access to an additional entry selected by the user So in short, the Right Way is to open the Object Chooser, configured to show audio files only (or only ogg files, not sure if tha

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.10.2010, at 12:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Note that mentioning it in #sugar is not enough +1 - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Mon Oct 04 12:56:24 +0200 2010: > A change that I think can be made without asking first is the addition > of the 1.0 milestone, but I think we still need to agree on the > meaning of moving a ticket to that milestone. You are faster to complain than I can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording

2010-10-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from James Simmons's message of Mon Oct 04 01:28:03 +0200 2010: > There is a chapter called "Fun With The Journal" which has examples of > listing out Journal entries. What you need to do is figure out what > the MIME type of the Ogg entries in the Journal are and write code to > list th