[Sugar-devel] Terminal Activity strings

Dear Sugar developers, The Terminal Activity is going to get a new version release in the very near future. As you know, this is a core activity providing access to the Linux command line. It used to have very few, very simple, but very important strings. Terminal Zoom out Zoom in Fullscreen Op

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Actually not. The problem is that I really believe the deployed system needs to be free, meaning the deployment needs to pay no subscription fees or royalties to continue to use the device. Microsoft (and other vendors) suffer from the buy once model. All of them are trying to find a way to get

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson wrote: > Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quantities > of 30+. > If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device, that can be > done for all of them at > the time of deployment. So, if anyone can find a suitable tab

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote: > One approach is for the 'cloud' server to emulate the school server. > 100% agree ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Vote on Translation-Community Manager motions

I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. +1 I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effective immediately. +1 I further move that the Trans

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

One approach is for the 'cloud' server to emulate the school server. Tony On 04/06/2016 10:41 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland > wrote: On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quantities of 30+. If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device, that can be done for all of them at the time of deployment. So, if anyone can find a suitable tablet with a manageable price (less than $100) and can in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Thanks, Walter Beautifully said. Tony On 04/06/2016 09:17 PM, Walter Bender wrote: I'm going to land squarely in the middle on this issue. I agree with Sam that what we have to offer in the world of a GNU/Linux desktop is far far better than any alternatives I have seen. The opportunity for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #4906 Sugar NORM: No indicator when headphones are plugged in

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 You could probably start at with simply changing the text, then send a later patch to add new icons. On 6 April 2016 10:36:09 PM AEST, Sugar Labs Bugs wrote: >#4906: No indicator when headphones are plugged in >--+

Re: [Sugar-devel] webL10n.js problems

Perhaps this is intentional, see line 1136 of l10n.js, where the key is split by '.' as a delimiter; https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n/blob/master/l10n.js#L1136 pointed to by https://www.npmjs.com/package/webl10n The usage model seems to be to use key values that aren't the untranslated

[Sugar-devel] webL10n.js problems

Maybe I have stale bits or maybe I am doing something wrong, but I have been wrestling with webL10n.js, which I believe is the recommend module to use for localization in JavaScript programs for Sugar. Typical of what I am experiencing is that any string with multiple punctuation characters will no

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > How many kids is Sugar targetting? > > Low millions? Or billions? > A few years ago, I estimated at around 10 million the number of teachers in classrooms with younger children, and I suggested we target them. Any teacher-friendly, ultrasi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Back in 2006, when choice was to use C++, C, Qt or Gtk, or even php-gtk (!), one side said use C because we had it now, it would work, and work really fast. Python was chosen because it worked, and was easily accessible for modification by the learner. Silly, thought I, 'cause who uses Python for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

some tablets. > Those are the pedagogic devices of now and the future. Those run > faster with Gtk than with WebKit. > > Don't waste time. > > Thanks, > Sam > > [GNU in this post refers to GNU/Linux] > -- next part -- > An HTM

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On 6 April 2016 at 10:48, Martin Dengler wrote: > Sugar is not a technology. Ahhh come on man, you know what I mean :) I was pretty clear that I am talking about https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/graphs/contributors If you have ever put a UI in front of kids That is the point. How many kids

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 10:41, Walter Bender wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> >> On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from >>> the point of view of children's privacy, securit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Quoting Walter Bender (2016-04-06 16:41:07) > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> Off the top of my head, here are 3 projects that adapt the software >> freedom movement to the model: >> >> http://sandstorm.io >> https://owncloud.org >> https://unhosted.org >> > > UnHosted i

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 08:46:15PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: Sugar is basically a 10 year old technology. Sugar is not a technology. And the Sugar desktop's age is less than git, javascript, C, HTML, DNS, IPv6, and lots of other things. If there is one thing I'd wish for pedagogical techno

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: > >> the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from >> the point of view of children's privacy, security, and freedom. > > > Naw, it ain't inherent to the model

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: > If we can develop within the context of Sugar desktop and the browser, it > is to a large extent a win-win. That is the 'great hack' I referred to earlier - I think its copyleft-level clever stuff :) I'm not so familiar with GNOME 3, but its JS

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: > the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from > the point of view of children's privacy, security, and freedom. Naw, it ain't inherent to the model! :) Off the top of my head, here are 3 projects that adapt the sof

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Hey Jonas A nice surprise to see you here :) On 6 April 2016 at 09:29, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-06 14:42:57) > > On 6 April 2016 at 02:59, wrote: > > > >> You can install GNU on a chromebook, you can install GNU on computer, > >> you can install GNU on some tab

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

ChromeOS is a GNU distribution :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-06 14:42:57) > On 6 April 2016 at 02:59, wrote: > >> You can install GNU on a chromebook, you can install GNU on computer, >> you can install GNU on some tablets. Those are the pedagogic devices >> of now and the future. Those run faster with Gtk than with WebKi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

I'm going to land squarely in the middle on this issue. I agree with Sam that what we have to offer in the world of a GNU/Linux desktop is far far better than any alternatives I have seen. The opportunity for growth there is demonstrably great. We have pretty decent offerings in Fedora, Debian, an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

On 6 April 2016 at 02:59, wrote: > You can install GNU on a chromebook, you can install GNU on computer, you > can install GNU on some tablets. Those are the pedagogic devices of now > and the future. Those run faster with Gtk than with WebKit. Will devices running GNU and Sugar desktops get

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

Thanks for the question Dave, Let me explain why the Yoruba came with the price $6,000. Originally, The Yoruba come with a price of 1500 USD. About the Internet plan in Nigeria is quite expensive. Like i told Tony, getting a portable internet connection plus the device cost about $300 a month.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

My dream is that someone ports gnu/linux to run on low-cost tablets. Rabi Karmacharya, with lots of experience, believes we need at least a 10in screen. I think the tablet needs to be in a leather (or substantially ruggedized) case with a keyboard (wired usb or wireless). Suppose someone appro

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

Hi, James My apologies. I am new to this and have made a lot of mistakes. However, I don't believe it is fair to accuse me of 'hiding' anything. As you know following my first meeting in February, I posted a conglomeration of the ideas thrown out as to the position (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

James, I am not sure how NIH fits. I am completely new to the SLOBs and have had very little involvement with the translations program. I got assigned this task by the SLOBs at my first meeting in February. My point, clearly, is that this proposal needs to be evaluated by the TCM, in the contex