Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Austin Bart
Has much effort been taken towards "Sneaknet" solutions to these problems? Obviously not a complete replacement, but it might help relieve some of the problems. I came across a sugar wiki pagetalking about a proposal for one, did anything ever come out of it?

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Hal Murray
moku...@sugarlabs.org said: > I believe that far more is going on than we see. I have considerable faith > in children discovering how things work for themselves, and sharing the > information they discover. Anybody interested in children discovering how things work should google for > hole-in-t

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Kevin, I also grew up in that world. I fondly remember my first computer class in high school (1978), learning FORTRAN on the big teletype machine. When those remarkable moments of learning on the XOs are happening, I know we are doing the right thing. And I point them out to the students and the

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Kevin Mark
I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students have complained that the devices do not connect well or reliably to our wireless network. Obviously, in our case, we have a wireless network and essent

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Edward Mokurai Cherlin
On Sun, October 14, 2012 11:07 am, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito > wrote: > >> I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school >> regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students >> have >> complained tha

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Walter Bender > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Christoph Derndorfer > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Christoph Derndorfer >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I wanted to share t

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito < > gerald.ard...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school >

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito > wrote: >> >> I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school >> regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students have >> complained that

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: > I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school > regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students have > complained that the devices do not connect well or reliably to our wireless > network. >

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: > I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school > regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students have > complained that the devices do not connect well or reliably to our wireless > network. >

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
I wanted to share that we have faced the same criticisms in our school regarding the XOs. For the last four years, the teachers and students have complained that the devices do not connect well or reliably to our wireless network. Obviously, in our case, we have a wireless network and essentially

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > On 10/13/12, Walter Bender wrote: > >> Alexandro, > >> > >> I think you are grossly underestimating the connectivity problem in > Peru. > > > > Yes maybe, but I understand most

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/13/12, Walter Bender wrote: >> Alexandro, >> >> I think you are grossly underestimating the connectivity problem in Peru. > > Yes maybe, but I understand most educational systems dont have enough > budget to acquire connectivity s

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/13/12, Walter Bender wrote: >> Alexandro, >> >> I think you are grossly underestimating the connectivity problem in Peru. > > Yes maybe, but I understand most educational systems dont have enough > budget to acquire connectivity s

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/13/12, Walter Bender wrote: > Alexandro, > > I think you are grossly underestimating the connectivity problem in Peru. Yes maybe, but I understand most educational systems dont have enough budget to acquire connectivity so getting connectivity from other sources like public buildings, libra

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Walter Bender
Alexandro, I think you are grossly underestimating the connectivity problem in Peru. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinf

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Gary Martin
On 13 Oct 2012, at 20:10, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/13/12, Chris Leonard wrote: >> 2012/10/13 Alexandro Colorado : >> Los trabajos que venimos realizando en forma coordinada entre SugarLabs + SomosAzucar + Ministerio de educación es en brindar una plataforma capaz

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/13/12, Chris Leonard wrote: > 2012/10/13 Alexandro Colorado : > >>> >>> Los trabajos que venimos realizando en forma coordinada entre SugarLabs >>> + >>> SomosAzucar + Ministerio de educación es en brindar una plataforma capaz >>> de >>> mantener a la comunidad educativa CONECTADA, con o sin

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Chris Leonard
2012/10/13 Alexandro Colorado : >> >> Los trabajos que venimos realizando en forma coordinada entre SugarLabs + >> SomosAzucar + Ministerio de educación es en brindar una plataforma capaz de >> mantener a la comunidad educativa CONECTADA, con o sin internet, y esto por >> que nuestra realidad así

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/13/12, Hernan Pachas wrote: > Creo que es importante empezar a difundir un concepto mas amplio respecto a > la comunicación entre la comunidad educativa en general. > > El concepto que se debe trabajar (hablo en términos de educación) debería > estar referido a la CONEXION ENTRE LA COMUNIDAD

Re: [Sugar-devel] NPR story on OLPC in Peru

2012-10-13 Thread Hernan Pachas
Creo que es importante empezar a difundir un concepto mas amplio respecto a la comunicación entre la comunidad educativa en general. El concepto que se debe trabajar (hablo en términos de educación) debería estar referido a la CONEXION ENTRE LA COMUNIDAD EDUCATIVA, y esta conexión esta enmarcada e