Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/22/2010 07:00 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 10/07/2010 06:39 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:27, Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org wrote: What do others think about this approach? Packagers? A clearer way to discuss this would be to just send a patch. That way there is no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: I have been giving the patches another go and made some smaller fixes for error handling. I have tested them as well to make sure there are no regressions. I give them my ok.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/07/2010 06:39 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:27, Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org wrote: What do others think about this approach? Packagers? A clearer way to discuss this would be to just send a patch. That way there is no doubt over the details of the implementation

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:27, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: What do others think about this approach? Packagers? A clearer way to discuss this would be to just send a patch. That way there is no doubt over the details

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-08 Thread Lucian Branescu
On 7 October 2010 21:54, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Ticket with the start of implementation: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2425 Gonzalo I'm not sure which way would be best, but I would choose either a very simple solution (just dotted numbers, no alphanumerics) or a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/06/2010 11:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Initially, I advocated strongly for something with the expresiveness of dpkg's versioning. However, that's wrong. We need to use a clear _subset_ of what dpkg, rpm,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
So the proposed 1.2.3-peru numbering scheme really is a 1.2.3 scheme with an optional trailing taint hint? It probably makes better sense to clearly distinguish those two essentially separate issues: * mainline numbering + integer + triple integers + Debian-style triple string

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:45:11PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: So the proposed 1.2.3-peru numbering scheme really is a 1.2.3 scheme with an optional trailing taint hint? [snip] It probably makes better sense to clearly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Ticket with the start of implementation: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2425 Gonzalo On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:27, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: What do others think about this approach? Packagers? A clearer way

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-06 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: If you're going to use something other than simple integers, I suggest either: a) a string of dotted integers. You should *always* be able to subdivide a release if necessary. Strings like peru belong (in my opinion)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Then I plan to ignore the customization when I  compute the order. So why is it there? b) use the debian version numbering system *exactly*.  It has been shown to work in the real world, and it is well documented.  The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:47 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Then I plan to ignore the customization when I  compute the order. So why is it there? To allow identification. But what Gonzalo pointed out is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Initially, I advocated strongly for something with the expresiveness of dpkg's versioning. However, that's wrong. We need to use a clear _subset_ of what dpkg, rpm, portage(... etc) can do, so the distro packager

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-06 Thread James Cameron
I support the proposal for dotted activity version numbers, but I don't like at all the idea of using -peru or -something on the end that isn't a version number. It should go in some other metadata. I agree with Scott too. -- James Cameron System Test Coordinator One Laptop per Child

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/05/2010 01:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: On 5 October 2010 10:25, James Cameronqu...@laptop.org wrote: I agree with the proposal. -- James Cameron System Test Coordinator One Laptop per Child I tentatively agree. My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Gary, thanks for your feedback. On 10/05/2010 04:31 AM, Gary Martin wrote: On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:30, James Cameronqu...@laptop.org wrote: On 05/10/2010, at 10:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer numbers, rather than

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
If you're going to use something other than simple integers, I suggest either: a) a string of dotted integers. You should *always* be able to subdivide a release if necessary. Strings like peru belong (in my opinion) in release notes or the name of the activity or anywhere else. They don't tell

[Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer numbers. This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity version gets rather complicated. People have been planning for that in advance and reserved numbers for such a purpose in order to overcome that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer numbers. This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity version gets rather complicated. People have been planning for that in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/04/2010 04:48 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org wrote: The current activity version scheme does only allow the use of integer numbers. This has the issue that doing a bug fix release for an older activity version gets rather

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:27:36AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: The new version number will consist of N integer numbers separated by dots and a suffix for a local indicator. Activity developers can still use an integer number only, if desired. Valid numbers are: 23 23.2 23.2.5 23.2.5-peru

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Short version: Gogogo! Thanks! Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of non-integer parts. It might seem obvious at first - peru being slight fork of micro-version 5. But perhaps sometimes a local branch wants to release a sneak preview, e.g. almost micro-version 6.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 12:50:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Short version: Gogogo! Thanks! Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of non-integer parts. It might seem obvious at first - peru being slight fork of micro-version 5. But perhaps sometimes a local

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 12:50:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Short version: Gogogo! Thanks! Slightly longer: Make sure to strictly define the semantics of non-integer parts. It might seem obvious at first - peru

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Gonzalo and others, I suspect we talk past each others. But let's just leave it at that. Good luck with the proposal! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread James Cameron
I agree with the proposal. -- James Cameron System Test Coordinator One Laptop per Child ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I agree with the proposal. +1 --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect  - ask interesting questions  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first  -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Tim McNamara
On 5 October 2010 10:25, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I agree with the proposal. -- James Cameron System Test Coordinator One Laptop per Child I tentatively agree. My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer numbers, rather than creating a complex

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Gary Martin
On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:30, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On 05/10/2010, at 10:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: My strong preference is for Activities to rapidly increase their integer numbers, rather than creating a complex tree of point releases. My feeling is that a tree of three or more