I'm certainly willing to try again. However the community (starting with
the Oversight Board) needs to support the initiative - technical work is
involved on our side even with a partner, including work I probably don't
even know about. And SL's immediate focus is on mentoring GSoC projects.
I wil
Hi Sean,
Is it a thing that you would contemplate now, to approach Oracle (for
corporate sponsorship, perhaps) but in particular about what support
they would offer Sugarlabs towards our targets?
Would there be a view against this idea?
Regards,
Iain
On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 11:37 +0100, Sean DA
Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be clear,
I'm in favor of whatever solution could ease installation. Choosing a
keyboard layout from scratch can be quite tricky for the uninitiated, the
Virtualbox list is long with many variants (
https://straymarcs.net/wp-content/upl
We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do with age and
gender.
I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be more difficult.
Gonzalo
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
> We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's installation and
> unfami
We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's installation and
unfamiliarity barriers. Not everyone speaks English and can find and
configure the Sugar control panel on their first encounter with Sugar. A
keyboard mismatched with what appears on the screen merely gives the
impression it doesn
> My idea at the time was to approach Oracle for corporate sponsorship
> of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting a workflow to automate
> prebuilt images by host language/keyboard, however some community
> members were aghast at the idea.
Is still needed have a vm by host language/keyboard?
Or
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
> My idea at the time was to approach Oracle for corporate sponsorship
> of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting a workflow to automate
> prebuilt images by host language/keyboard, however some community
> members were aghast at the ide
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 08:43:52AM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> Still, with 3 months time, a student should be able to pull off
> making it as friendly as possible, but it would have to be
> repeatable, like you say, "almost automatic".
Yes, repeatability would be essential. That's something I
No the license was fine last time i checked - look at the section
concerning nonprofit/educational use. Our plan had been to bundle Sugar
prebuilt images with the Virtualbox installer.
The real issue is the extensions which are separate from the installer for
licensing reasons and must be loaded s
I was under the impression that the only viable option for that purpose
was Virtualbox, but it's license is pretty dubious (GPLv2 + some useful
parts proprietary). Oracle has a history of bad behaviour with regard to
licenses, so I would not put all of our eggs in this basket.
Still, with 3 months
I didn't have idea that there are so many virtualization options:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtualization_software
If we could have a "almost automatic" way to create a vm,
and share to users in windows or mac, could solve a lot of problems,
and help us reach a bigger u
El 20/03/15 a las 06:58, Gonzalo Odiard escibió:
>
> |> A different approach would be to provide a virtual machine _and_
> > virtualisation software _and_ all the necessary configuration
> files so
> > that the user is not exposed to the virtualisation.
>
>
> Yes. This would be grea
>
> |> A different approach would be to provide a virtual machine _and_
> > virtualisation software _and_ all the necessary configuration files so
> > that the user is not exposed to the virtualisation.
Yes. This would be great.
Gonzalo
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> > From: Iain Brown Douglas
> > To: James Cameron
> > Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects
> > Message-ID: <1426803955.2592.56.camel@vey-waldorf>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> &
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 11:49 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:25:55PM +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
> > Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
> > Perhaps you will forgive me if I brainstorm this a bit.
>
> Yep, no worries. Interesting, but you
: Iain Brown Douglas
To: James Cameron
Cc:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects
Message-ID: <1426803955.2592.56.camel@vey-waldorf>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi James,
Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:25:55PM +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
> Perhaps you will forgive me if I brainstorm this a bit.
Yep, no worries. Interesting, but you went off into areas I didn't
have any comment on.
I do have a com
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 18:44 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>
> > On March 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM Iain Brown Douglas
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Jerry,
>
>
> > > > If one knew that a SoaS CD would always make a "Sugar stick", the
> > > > prospect of selling the CD, (by third parties ?) becomes more doable
> On March 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM Iain Brown Douglas
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jerry,
> > > If one knew that a SoaS CD would always make a "Sugar stick", the
> > > prospect of selling the CD, (by third parties ?) becomes more doable.
> > >
> >
> > Is there any specific branding that you want to use?
>
>
Hi Jerry,
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 18:02 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> Hi Iain:
>
> > On March 19, 2015 at 5:25 PM Iain Brown Douglas
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
> > Perhaps you will forgive me if I brainstorm this a bit.
>
Hi Iain:
> On March 19, 2015 at 5:25 PM Iain Brown Douglas
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
> Perhaps you will forgive me if I brainstorm this a bit.
>
> On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 08:48 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> > I've often thought of
Hi James,
Thank you for taking the time to make a thoughtful contribution.
Perhaps you will forgive me if I brainstorm this a bit.
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 08:48 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> I've often thought of making such an application, because of the
> difficulties that some people report with
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 11:11 -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> By no means!
>
> It actually is a great idea.
>
> Since you had the idea (or the itch) to fix this, I would ask that
> you, please, see it thru to completion. ;-)
> Take 10 minutes to list all the ways trying Sugar could be improved,
I've often thought of making such an application, because of the
difficulties that some people report with downloading files and
putting them on USB drive.
The problem with an application is one may end up having to explain
how to download the application; transferring the issue from the
original
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 10:11 -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> But perhaps you could envision a more complete solution
> related to Sugar on a Stick's need (Fedora / Trisquel / future variants).
>
This is an important part of your reply. My envisioning does not go that
far, :(
Regards,
Iain
_
By no means!
It actually is a great idea.
Since you had the idea (or the itch) to fix this, I would ask that you,
please, see it thru to completion. ;-)
Take 10 minutes to list all the ways trying Sugar could be improved, or,
where not improved, at least better documented.
There. Now you wil
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 12:12 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> Hi Iain!
> GSoC project are for 3 months of work for a university student.
> Do you think that script imply that amount of work?
No :)
> What should be the use case? Auto duplicate SoaS?
> Reagrds,
>
The use case is in the field of Auto d
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 10:11 -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> Hi Iain.
>
> IMHO you'd need to flesh it out some more, the simple conditional you
> spec'd out should take an afternoon to code. You need to think of
> something that will fit a 5000 US$ developing stipend and/or if you
> prefer, a summe
Hi Iain.
IMHO you'd need to flesh it out some more, the simple conditional you
spec'd out should take an afternoon to code. You need to think of
something that will fit a 5000 US$ developing stipend and/or if you
prefer, a summer's work.
By the way, I am under the impression this is a problem wit
Hi Iain!
GSoC project are for 3 months of work for a university student.
Do you think that script imply that amount of work?
What should be the use case? Auto duplicate SoaS?
Reagrds,
Gonzalo
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Iain Brown Douglas <
i...@browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
I've added a few ideas that would be very useful for SoaS (and in
general I believe), I hope it's not too late, feel free to
update/edit/change/query.
Peter
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> Sure. Please add them
>
> Measure to GST 1.0 would be good as well.
>
> On Wed, Mar
Sure. Please add them
Measure to GST 1.0 would be good as well.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Looking at the GSoC 2015 idea page [1] I'm wondering if it's possible
> to get some other core items added as part of the sugar core projects?
>
> Like:
> * Covert
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