Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Roger Bailey
Children, protected from all hazards in the nanny cocoon will ultimately rebel, seeking freedom, take risks and causing trouble. We are all familiar with acts of vandalism against sundials in public places. This link shows this is a worldwide phenomenon. The pictures show a couple of examples in

Sun exposure and kids

2012-05-16 Thread Astrovisuals
I bet, in 20 years, people with rickets from lack of Vitamin D will be suing schools for not letting them get enough sunshine when they were kids out in the school playground! --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Donald Christensen
…….I would like to know the real, truthful reason these sundials are being banned, and it better be a good one. Don’t ponder on this with logic too long or you will get a headache. I hope nobody under 18 reads the email. I’d hate for this forum to get sued for being too dangerous. The legal t

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread John Pickard
Good morning Martina, I've been following the various replies, and I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed about stupid attempts to reduce risk to zero. We all have our favourite stories, but I think that these examples will top the list. I understand that one of the largest mining

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread darkroom3
That is even more ridiculous. Almost daily some child in my school is falling down and skinning a knee, arguing with others or getting in a small pushing match. We have over 460 kids, its going to happen. And if 20 years from now, getting skin cancer, prove it that it came from standing on a

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Yan Seiner
Martina: Do you have any documentation (letters, newspaper articles, policies, etc) that show these decisions? I can't find a reference on the web. Thanks! -- Q: How can you tell Spring is here in Oregon? A: The rain is warmer. My daughter is racing a triathlon to raise money for her swim team

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Jackie Jones
Hi Martina, How about contacting the Health and Safety Executive (think that is what they are called). I have heard that they get a bit annoyed with being used as reasons for not doing things. They sponsored the conker championship after people were saying it was too dangerous for children. Ask

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmaticsundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Tandy
Sorry Fabio, but I wouldn't let children anywhere near this, unless: a) they had had training in its use b) they held a current licence to operate it c) it was permanently screwed down to a large heavy bench (just think of the litigation if it was dislodged and fell on a toe) d) they wear p

Re: Analemmatic in a public place

2012-05-16 Thread Bill Gottesman
Very nice. -Bill On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Mac Oglesby wrote: > > Hello friends, > > Last Saturday I repainted the analemmatic sundial I installed a few years > ago outside the west entrance to my town's Municipal Center. You can see > the lower parts of the doors in the background. (The

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmaticsundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Tom Laidlaw
And it’s five o'clock somewhere. -Original Message- From: Roger Bailey Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:55 PM To: Tom Laidlaw ; Kevin Karney ; Mac Oglesby Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmaticsundials ? I know nothing about the Beam and S

RE: sundials and tower clocks

2012-05-16 Thread Andrew James
Dear John, Frank, Kevin, et al, I remember a letter from Charles Aked in Antiquarian Horology circa 1970 showing his son (then about 8?) at one of the Scottish lighthouse dials in situ. I believe they were all (?) sold off perhaps about 15 years ago and think I have a cutting somewhere from

re: sundials and tower clocks

2012-05-16 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Dear Frank et al,   Thank you for the extract from the General Order for lighthouse dials. The thing which surprises me is that it is the EoT value engraved on the sundial that is being taken as the correction figure, rather than one for the date in question published in the current Nautical Alm

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmaticsundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread fer de vries
To all, At the site of De Zonnewijzerkring you may see three sundials on a child friendly public square. The main goal was: "The plan was to be suitable for children, and to provide for several educational elements." For example: The long hourlines are for practicing balance. The blocks to cli

re: sundials and tower clocks

2012-05-16 Thread Frank Evans
Greetings, fellow dialists, I know of two particular instances where dials were used to regulate clocks. The first is the noon line of 1829 in the cloister of Durham Cathedral. Obviously its only purpose was to mark the time of noon for the purpose of correcting the Cathedral clocks. The second

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Tandy
Dear Martina, Perhaps you should construct your analemmatic sundial on a large plastic roll-up mat. Then you could put it out in the playground at specific times on sunny days (no great point in having it when the sun is not shining anyway, or when the kids are in lessons). That way the 'poor'