AW: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-08 Thread Arthur Carlson
thought I could ask.) --Art -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Tim Yu Gesendet: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:22 AM An: Sundial List Cc: Tim Yu Betreff: RE: Polar ceiling sundial [David] What is a caustic curve? See the website

Re: Was Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread John Carmichael
: Was Re: Polar ceiling sundial On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, fer j. de vries wrote: The max. altitude of the sun h = 90 - phi + 23.5 degrees. This reminded me of something I saw recently, that was a bit of a puzzle: I live at 37.3N latitude. This puts the mean plane of the Ecliptic at something like

Limitations for polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Anselmo P�rez Serrada
To: J Lynes ; Anselmo Pérez Serrada ; Sundial, Mailinglist Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Polar ceiling sundial Hi John, There are several limitations to concider but the principle still is true. The problems you mention occur at latitudessmaller

RE: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread David Pratten
The BSS sundial glossary has the following entry under Types of Dials: reflecting ~: these dials have no gnomon, but reflect sunlight by means of a semi-cylindrical mirror, set with the axis of the mirror parallel to the polar axis. The mirror reflects the light to form a caustic curve amongst

RE: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Yu
[David] What is a caustic curve? See the website: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/Caustic/ A simple Java applet demonstrates how a caustic curve is formed by parallel light rays bouncing off a cylindrical, reflective surface. Tim

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Luke Coletti
Hello David, See BSS Bulletin 98.1, page 30, _Reflecting Sundials_ by C.M. Lowne. The article includes a section, The Cycloid as a Reflector, mentioning that the cusps (of the reflected caustic) are neither evenly-spaced with time nor did they lie on a straight line. However, the edge of

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread J Lynes
Thanks, Fer. Apologies all round, and especially to Anselmo. I now think his proposal would work after all. But only in the winter months. At noon at the equinox the reflected beam would be vertically above the mirror. During the summer months the beam would be reflected south of the

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Luke Coletti
I thought I might share a simple drawing (URL below) that illustrates Anselmo's idea. In the drawing the Sun is on the Equator so the angle of the Solar rays onto the respective surfaces (polar dial plate and ceiling) is 90deg. However, it can be seen that this relation holds throughout

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread fer j. de vries
Pérez Serrada ; Sundial, Mailinglist Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Polar ceiling sundial Thanks, Fer. Apologies all round, and especially to Anselmo. I now think his proposal would work after all. But only in the winter months. At noon at the equinox

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread fer j. de vries
- Original Message - From: Luke Coletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anselmo Pérez Serrada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sundial, Mailinglist sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Polar ceiling sundial I thought I might share a simple drawing (URL below

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Luke Coletti
Subject: Re: Polar ceiling sundial I thought I might share a simple drawing (URL below) that illustrates Anselmo's idea. In the drawing the Sun is on the Equator so the angle of the Solar rays onto the respective surfaces (polar dial plate and ceiling) is 90deg. However, it can be seen

Was Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Dave Bell
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, fer j. de vries wrote: The max. altitude of the sun h = 90 - phi + 23.5 degrees. This reminded me of something I saw recently, that was a bit of a puzzle: I live at 37.3N latitude. This puts the mean plane of the Ecliptic at something like 52.7 degrees elevation. Near the

Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-05 Thread Anselmo P�rez Serrada
Hi, everyone! Maybe some of you didn't notice that if you lean the mirror towards the South so that it's slope equals half of your latitude then (a small hand-made wedge would do the job quite well) you get a polar sundial on the ceiling, with all its analemmas paralell to the meridian

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-05 Thread Dave Bell
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Anselmo P?rez Serrada wrote: Maybe some of you didn't notice that if you lean the mirror towards the South so that it's slope equals half of your latitude then (a small hand-made wedge would do the job quite well) you get a polar sundial on the ceiling, with

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-05 Thread fer j. de vries
:30 N long. 5:30 E - Original Message - From: J Lynes To: Anselmo Pérez Serrada ; Sundial, Mailinglist Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Polar ceiling sundial Anselmo Perez Serrada wrote - "Maybe some of you didn't notice that i

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-05 Thread Anselmo P�rez Serrada
the polar ceiling sundial separately... I'm sure that if you compare the result with the one obtained by a GPS compass you could hardly tell the difference. Anselmo Perez Serrada [ 41.63 N 4.73 W]