Re: varying speed?

2011-03-26 Thread Brent
It's amazing that someone was able to calculate these numbers out to 6 decimals. Is that done by some type of observation or is it mathematics? How could you possibly measure something like that? On 3/25/2011 1:14 PM, Kevin Karney wrote: Nothing is constant in the heavens ! The 'tropical'

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-26 Thread Kevin Karney
Brent If you measure the transit of a star (or any celestial body) through the meridian again and again over many years with telescopes that can distinguish less than 1 second of arc, then it's perfectly possible. Remember 1 second of time = 15 seconds of arc. These measurements - now done

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-26 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: It turns out that because of seeing you can not determine meridian crossing to better than about 5 arc seconds (5 * 55 ms of time). (The exception is for locations at high elevations or in space.) I've heard that modern CCD cameras can image sections of the sky and fit the image to a

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-26 Thread David Bell
That's still around one part in 10^8 over a year, not quite 6 decimal places of days, but very close! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi: It turns out that because of seeing you can not determine meridian crossing to better than

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-26 Thread koolish
People might be interested in the book The Sun in the Church by Heilbron. It's about using meridian lines in cathedrals for solar measurements. http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/heilbron.html Brent If you measure the transit of a star (or any celestial body) through the meridian

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-25 Thread Marcelo
move 58 minutes of arc with relation to the celestial equator. 2011/3/24 Brent bren...@verizon.net Hello again; I read this at: http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/HDSW.htm Part 17 When we look at the Sun we are observing it from a moving platform. It is the varying speed around its elliptical

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-25 Thread Marcelo
read this at: http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/HDSW.htm Part 17 When we look at the Sun we are observing it from a moving platform. It is the varying speed around its elliptical orbit and the tilted axis which are responsible for the daily variations accounted for by the Equation of Time. I'm

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin Karney
://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/HDSW.htm Part 17 When we look at the Sun we are observing it from a moving platform. It is the varying speed around its elliptical orbit and the tilted axis which are responsible for the daily variations accounted for by the Equation of Time. I'm confused about the varying speed part

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-25 Thread Patrick Powers
/ssbarycenter.html which well shows the effects of the different planetary influences on the sun’s barycentre. Patrick From: Kevin Karney Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:16 PM To: Marcelo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: varying speed? Marcelo Nothing is constant in the heavens

Re: varying speed?

2011-03-25 Thread Marcelo
-koeln.de *Subject:* Re: varying speed? Marcelo Nothing is constant in the heavens ! The 'tropical' year (from equinox to equinox) is 365.242190 days The 'sidereal' year (fixed star to fixed star) is 365.256363 days The 'anomalistic' year (perihelion to perihelion) is 365.259636 days - cycling

varying speed?

2011-03-24 Thread Brent
Hello again; I read this at: http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/HDSW.htm Part 17 When we look at the Sun we are observing it from a moving platform. It is the varying speed around its elliptical orbit and the tilted axis which are responsible for the daily variations accounted for by the Equation

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2011-03-24 Thread Hank de Wit
/Kepler's_laws_of_planetary_motion Many regards Hank de Wit Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Brent Sent: Friday, 25 March 2011 11:03 To: Sundial List Subject: varying speed? Hello again; I read this at: http

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2011-03-24 Thread Hank de Wit
I meant angular momentum, not just momentum. Sorry. -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Hank de Wit Sent: Friday, 25 March 2011 11:23 To: Sundial List Subject: RE: varying speed? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Brent, Indeed