Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just don't know why you think I did. I hit reply, type my message and go forth. Didn't think it needed to be any harder than that. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Scott

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just don't know why you > think I did.  I hit reply, type my message and go forth.  Didn't think > it needed to be any harder than that. I did not think anything -- This is my 1st message to thi

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
You was not specifically YOU...rather the list. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: >> Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just

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2009-07-29 Thread Tim Nelson
- "Curtis LaMasters" wrote: > Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just don't know why you > think I did. I hit reply, type my message and go forth. Didn't > think > it needed to be any harder than that. > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetwor

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2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just don't know why you > think I did.  I hit reply, type my message and go forth.  Didn't think > it needed to be any harder than that. It can be a lot harder than that. It's effectively illus

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2009-07-29 Thread iggdawg
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Thanks Scott. I know what top posting is...I just don't know why you > think I did. I hit reply, type my message and go forth. Didn't think > it needed to be any harder than that. > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com >

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2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
And I think the point is being missed. WHY WAS MY MESSAGE VIEWED AS TOP POSTED. Ok, I committed my internet crime of YELLING in caps for the day. In Gmail, is there a proper way to not top post? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 200

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2009-07-29 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, wrote: > Unfortunately Gmail top posts by default.  So expecting bottom posting to be > and to remain the default behavior may be an exercise in futility.  proper > ettiquite or not, some people just bang off replies and figure everything is > a-ok.  This being a r

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2009-07-29 Thread iggdawg
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > And I think the point is being missed. WHY WAS MY MESSAGE VIEWED AS > TOP POSTED. Ok, I committed my internet crime of YELLING in caps for > the day. In Gmail, is there a proper way to not top post? > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.cu

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2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
This is top posting apparently. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Curtis LaMasters > wrote: >> >> And I think the point is being missed.  WHY WAS MY MESSAGE VIEWED AS >>

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
And this is bottom posting. Correct? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.c

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2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
Yes. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > This is top posting apparently. > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetworks.com > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM, wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Curtis LaMasters >> wr

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2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
To which one? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Burgess wrote: > Yes. > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: >> This is top posting apparently. >> >> Curtis LaMasters >> http://www.curti

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2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > And this is bottom posting.  Correct? Well, I don't think it's top-posting or bottom-posting if you delete all prior content. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr.

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2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
The current is an example of top-posting, in response to your top-post. I don't think you've bottom-posted in this thread yet. db On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > To which one? > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetworks.com > > > >

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Burgess wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: >> And this is bottom posting.  Correct? > > Well, I don't think it's top-posting or bottom-posting if you delete > all prior content. > > ---

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Burgess wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Curtis >> LaMasters wrote: >>> And this is bottom posting.  Correct? >> >> Well, I don't think it's top-posting or bottom-posting if you delete >> a

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > How about now? Bottom posting? Bingo. Ha ha. Now Scott's saying no and I'm saying yes. In my view, you bottom-posted, although you could refine it further by trimming the quoted text to which you're replying. Not sure if that's Scott's

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating. Is it the fact that I'm using Gmail or that by definition, threading in email is broken by design. I would have imagined that the Spamassassin mailing list would have eaten all Gmail users alive if Gmail were the issue. Curtis LaMasters http:/

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread iggdawg
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating. Is it the fact > that I'm using Gmail or that by definition, threading in email is > broken by design. I would have imagined that the Spamassassin mailing > list would have eaten all

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating.  Is it the fact > that I'm using Gmail or that by definition, threading in email is > broken by design.  I would have imagined that the Spamassassin mailing > list would have eaten all Gm

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
> HItting reply resulted in the above > > A proper bottom post then looks like this: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: >> Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating.  Is it the fact >> that I'm using Gmail or that by definition, threading in email is >> bro

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2009-07-29 Thread apiase...@midatlanticbb.com
iggd...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Curtis LaMasters mailto:curtislamast...@gmail.com>> wrote: Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating. Is it the fact that I'm using Gmail or that by definition, threading in email is broken by design. I would h

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > I actually find that to be annoying to read.  However, in the spirit > of good internetship, I'll oblige. Sorry any problems I may have > caused. Let me know if I did that correctly. That looks correct. Unfortunately this is the way mail

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2009-07-29 Thread iggdawg
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: > > I actually find that to be annoying to read. However, in the spirit > > of good internetship, I'll oblige. Sorry any problems I may have > > caused. Let me know if I did that co

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Curtis > LaMasters wrote: >> I actually find that to be annoying to read.  However, in the spirit >> of good internetship, I'll oblige. Sorry any problems I may have >> caused. Let me know if I did that correc

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2009-07-29 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
this is top posting Above all else, this is just spamming the mailing list and wasted 5 minutes of my life reading thru that horrible slew of emails this is bottom posting

RE: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
-Original Message- From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:sullr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:56 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:28:14AM -0600, David Burgess wrote: > It can be a lot harder than that. It's effectively illustrated in the > links that Scott provided. A little effort in replying can save a lot > of wasted effort in trying to bring oneself up to speed or refresh > one's memory on a lo

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2009-07-29 Thread wayne
Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:28:14AM -0600, David Burgess wrote: It can be a lot harder than that. It's effectively illustrated in the links that Scott provided. A little effort in replying can save a lot of wasted effort in trying to bring oneself up to speed or refresh one's

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2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:46 PM, wayne wrote: > Eugen Leitl wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:28:14AM -0600, David Burgess wrote: >> >>> It can be a lot harder than that. It's effectively illustrated in the >>> links that Scott provided. A little effort in replying can save a lot >>> of waste

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2009-07-29 Thread Steve Spencer
wayne wrote: > Eugen Leitl wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:28:14AM -0600, David Burgess wrote: >> >>> It can be a lot harder than that. It's effectively illustrated in the >>> links that Scott provided. A little effort in replying can save a lot >>> of wasted effort in trying to bring oneself

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread David Rees
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > Unfortunately Gmail top posts by default.  So expecting bottom posting to be > and to remain the default behavior may be an exercise in futility.  proper > ettiquite or not, some people just bang off replies and figure everything is > a-ok.  This being a

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Gary Buckmaster
David Rees wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: Unfortunately Gmail top posts by default. So expecting bottom posting to be and to remain the default behavior may be an exercise in futility. proper ettiquite or not, some people just bang off replies and figure everything is a-ok

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Thanks everyone. Learning has occurred. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Gary Buckmaster wrote: > David Rees wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: >> >>> >>> Unfortunately Gmail top posts by default.

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > I find it funny when people assume because they do a certain thing, > that they must not be doing x. I have 9 mailing lists that I > participate in, and as I mentioned before, none have bothered me or > others for that matter abo

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2009-07-29 Thread Tim Nelson
- "Curtis LaMasters" wrote: > Thanks everyone. Learning has occurred. > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetworks.com > I really hate to fan the flames here... but I just HAD to do this: http://diy.despair.com/output/poster84114313.jpg The hilarity a

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2009-07-29 Thread Victor Padro
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Curtis LaMasters wrote: > And this is bottom posting.  Correct? > > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetworks.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubsc

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2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
> I really hate to fan the flames here... but I just HAD to do this: > > http://diy.despair.com/output/poster84114313.jpg > > The hilarity and simultaneous irritation this thread has caused is just > fantastic. > > --Tim Yes, I noticed that just as soon as I sent it. Thanks for the virtual slap

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2009-07-30 Thread Veiko Kukk
This is a good example, why bottom-posting sucks... Why do i need to scroll past all previous teks i read just few seconds ago, following that thread? If i need to read it, then i could scroll down, but rarely there is need for that. -- Veiko iggd...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 a

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2009-07-30 Thread Michael Schuh
I think that top-posting is better or simpler top-posting is more natural, everything in the nature that is newer is on the top ... this is what we as first see on the other hand we are more trained to read from top to bottom, the newest words in a message are on the bottom... we write from top to

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:08:38PM +0300, Veiko Kukk wrote: > This is a good example, why bottom-posting sucks... God gracious help us. What's wrong with interleaved posting? > Why do i need to scroll past all previous teks i read just few seconds > ago, following that thread? Because they're D

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-30 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:08:38PM +0300, Veiko Kukk wrote: >> This is a good example, why bottom-posting sucks... > > God gracious help us. What's wrong with interleaved > posting? > >> Why do i need to scroll past all previous teks i read just

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-30 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:55 PM, apiase...@midatlanticbb.com wrote: > iggd...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Curtis LaMasters >> mailto:curtislamast...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>    Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating.  Is it the fact >>    that I'm using

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-30 Thread Bill Marquette
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Veiko Kukk wrote: > This is a good example, why bottom-posting sucks... > Why do i need to scroll past all previous teks i read just few seconds ago, > following that thread? > If i need to read it, then i could scroll down, but rarely there is need for > that. A g

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2009-07-31 Thread Paul Mansfield
Curtis LaMasters wrote: > Gotta tell you guys...this is out right frustrating. Is it the fact there's some buttons on the keyboard called cursor keys, they move the little blob around which indicates where what you type will appear. you press the cursor down and type the response at the bottom.

Re: [pfSense Support] A note about top vs bottom posting -- please read and make sure you bottom post on our lists. Thank you.

2009-07-31 Thread Paul Mansfield
Curtis LaMasters wrote: >> This is a bottom post. > I actually find that to be annoying to read. However, in the spirit this is why a forum is often best, as it basically forces bottom-posting, but people can read the replies backwards if they want. -

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2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schuh
2009/7/31 Paul Mansfield : > Curtis LaMasters wrote: >>> This is a bottom post. >> I actually find that to be annoying to read.  However, in the spirit > > > this is why a forum is often best, as it basically forces > bottom-posting, but people can read the replies backwards if they want. > > -

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2009-07-29 Thread Víctor Hugo Pasten Varas
> -Mensaje original- > De: Curtis LaMasters [mailto:curtislamast...@gmail.com] > Enviado el: miércoles, 29 de julio de 2009 14:12 > Para: support@pfsense.com > Asunto: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 06.2/5.0] Re: [pfSense Support] A note > about top vs bottom posting -- please