Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/8/2014 5:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: > >> Among add-ons, SeaMonkey only installs extensions, which generally have >> the file-extension .xpi not .exe. >> >> There persists significant confusion caused by the Mozilla developers, >> who have lumped plugins and extensi

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread NFN Smith
Hartmut Figge wrote: NFN Smith: Have you considered using the Display Mail User Agent extension? No. Using Trunk, each day a new one, experience strongly recommends avoiding extensions which are not really needed. Definitely don't want to do more extensions if you're running Trunk. That

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread »Q«
In , "David E. Ross" wrote: > For newsgroup messages, the User-Agent header field is indicated in > RFC 5536 as optional. For E-mail messages, the User-Agent header > field is not even mentioned. All header fields beginning with X- > (e.g., X-M

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Trane Francks: >On 7/9/14 9:40 AM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> *IEEHHH* Meine Güte. ^^ Not easy to twist SM enough to achieve such a mess. *fg* >> Until someone can reproduce it i would hesitate to call it a bug. ;) > >That people are complaining about User-Agent not being d

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 9:40 AM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: *IEEHHH* Meine Güte. As always, pictures are better than many words. :) Interestingly, I think I've found a bug. As you can clearly see from the above screen shot,

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
WaltS48: >Then why does this "X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0", in View Source, >show up as "User agent Microsoft Outlook 14.0", in the message header of >emails I receive from one correspondent. After disabling Mnenhy and restarting SM, X-Mailer is shown as User-Agent in the header pane. Exac

Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
David E. Ross wrote: Among add-ons, SeaMonkey only installs extensions, which generally have the file-extension .xpi not .exe. There persists significant confusion caused by the Mozilla developers, who have lumped plugins and extensions under the single term "add-on". Extensions are executables

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: >What problem? That X-Mailer is not shown in the header pane? That line should have been deleted. It is a remnant from editing. On another news server i could use Supersedes. Sigh. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamo

Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 9:09 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 7/9/14 7:28 AM +0900, HenriK wrote: Shortly after upgrading to SM 2.26, I began to experience SM-generated 'Untrusted Connection' messages for the bulk of the websites I visit. Installing SM 2.26.1 did NOT remedy this problem. About six weeks ago

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Trane Francks: > *IEEHHH* Meine Güte. As always, pictures are better than many words. :) >Interestingly, I think I've found a bug. As you can clearly see from the >above screen shot, what you would expect to see as User-Agent is b

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 9:40 AM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: *IEEHHH* Meine Güte. As always, pictures are better than many words. :) Interestingly, I think I've found a bug. As you can clearly see from the above screen shot,

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 8:51 AM +0900, WaltS48 wrote: On 07/08/2014 07:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I strongly doubt that Thunderbird recognizes X-Mailer (or any other similar header field) as a substitute for User-Agent. Then why does this "X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0", in View Source, show up as "Use

Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 7:28 AM +0900, HenriK wrote: Shortly after upgrading to SM 2.26, I began to experience SM-generated 'Untrusted Connection' messages for the bulk of the websites I visit. Installing SM 2.26.1 did NOT remedy this problem. About six weeks ago, someone raised the 'Untrusted Connection' iss

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/9/14 2:23 AM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: For some incredibly bizarre reason, SeaMonkey is translating User-Agent to X-Mailer. If you look at the header information in the preview pane, look for X-Mailer. If you look at the source, then User-Agent is it. Sounds interesting.

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread WaltS48
On 07/08/2014 07:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I strongly doubt that Thunderbird recognizes X-Mailer (or any other similar header field) as a substitute for User-Agent. Then why does this "X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0", in View Source, show up as "User agent Microsoft Outlook 14.0", in the

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
David E. Ross: >However, the rest of my reply (which you did not quote) is still valid. There was no need for commenting. So there was no need for quoting. :) >I strongly doubt that Thunderbird recognizes X-Mailer (or any other >similar header field) as a substitute for User-Agent. Perhaps in o

Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/8/2014 3:28 PM, HenriK wrote: > Shortly after upgrading to SM 2.26, I began to experience SM-generated > 'Untrusted Connection' messages for the bulk of the websites I visit. > Installing SM 2.26.1 did NOT remedy this problem. > > About six weeks ago, someone raised the 'Untrusted Connectio

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/7/2014 8:04 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > David E. Ross: > >> The preference mailnews.headers.showUserAgent tells Thunderbird what to >> do when SENDING messages, not receiving them. > > Oh? Did you test that? ;) > > - mailnews.js - > // hidden pref for controlling if the user agent st

Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-07-08 Thread HenriK
Shortly after upgrading to SM 2.26, I began to experience SM-generated 'Untrusted Connection' messages for the bulk of the websites I visit. Installing SM 2.26.1 did NOT remedy this problem. About six weeks ago, someone raised the 'Untrusted Connection' issue about a particular site. The comm

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
NFN Smith: >Have you considered using the Display Mail User Agent extension? No. Using Trunk, each day a new one, experience strongly recommends avoiding extensions which are not really needed. >That one will show a logo of whatever mail client is being used, and in >the case of Thunderbird, wh

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread NFN Smith
Hartmut Figge wrote: [User-Agent >I like to see it for newsgroup posts so I know whether I am responding >to a Windows, Mac, or Linux user when offering support, when they don't >mention it in the post. So do i. Not only for that. If i see trouble with character encoding in a message and this

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Trane Francks: >For some incredibly bizarre reason, SeaMonkey is translating User-Agent >to X-Mailer. If you look at the header information in the preview pane, >look for X-Mailer. If you look at the source, then User-Agent is it. Sounds interesting. Very. >The information isn't missing, per s

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
WaltS48: [User-Agent >I like to see it for newsgroup posts so I know whether I am responding >to a Windows, Mac, or Linux user when offering support, when they don't >mention it in the post. So do i. Not only for that. If i see trouble with character encoding in a message and this message is co

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread WaltS48
On 07/07/2014 11:53 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: My outbound mail all utilizes the X-Mailer header. It's worth noting that neither 'User-Agent" or "X-Mailer" are specified in RFC 5322. As such, it's perhaps less than kind to consider SM to be deteriorated when the inclusion of either

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/8/14 8:33 PM +0900, Trane Francks wrote: On 7/8/14 1:15 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: On 7/8/14 12:53 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: My outbound mail all utilizes the X-Mailer header. It's worth noting that neither 'User-Agent" or "X-Mailer" are specified

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Trane Francks
On 7/8/14 1:15 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: On 7/8/14 12:53 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote: Trane Francks: My outbound mail all utilizes the X-Mailer header. It's worth noting that neither 'User-Agent" or "X-Mailer" are specified in RFC 5322. As such, it's perhaps less than k

Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 08/07/14 14:15, Hartmut Figge wrote: The UA gives valuable information for answering questions about problems. Another example of deterioration? The missing build date in the UA. For Trunk it is essential. The missing language in the UA would be nice to have back. Hartmut Hartmut, when I'

Re: SM 2.26 Affected My Scanner?

2014-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 08/07/14 00:55, Larry S. wrote: Daniel wrote: No, I've made no changes in add-ons. The bank claims that they've made no changes on their end. The scanner (hardware and s/w) support people claim no changes there. Very perplexing! Larry S. Well, if it's not the Bank and it's not the scan