Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

2010-03-21 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard schrieb: As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all targets. Except that your announcement contradicts thi

Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

2010-03-20 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: "SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x". No

Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

2010-03-17 Thread Benoit Renard
I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: "SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x". ___ support-seamonkey

Re: Progress Window Mockups

2010-03-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: To summarize the two options: * Use one that KaiRo already submitted, which is/was partially implemented and a few vocally opposed. * DO NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT HOW IT WAS IN SM 1.1 Choice 2 is woefully not going to happen, sorry. especially as there was no explan

Re: Progress Window Mockups

2010-03-01 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok Here is the deal: A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them as they stand. These people wish to

Re: Progress Window Mockups

2010-02-28 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok Here is the deal: A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them as they stand. These people wish to have changes made. KaiRo, the original

Re: Progress Window Mockups

2010-02-27 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok Here is the deal: A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them as they stand. These people wish to have changes made. KaiRo, the original owner of this area has abandoned it due to

Re: Progress Window Mockups

2010-02-26 Thread Benoit Renard
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok Here is the deal: A vocal minority of people who USE the progress windows don't like them as they stand. These people wish to have changes made. KaiRo, the original owner of this area has abandoned it due to "stop energy" when he tried to make improvements.

Re: new form manager is great

2010-02-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: The progress window flamer community didn't seem to want help, after all. They did, just not from you. Don't spin around what actually happened. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.

Re: new form manager is great

2010-02-24 Thread Benoit Renard
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-23 2:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-22 12:34 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: And the developers here have told me to shut up or write my own code, and that's not an option. I'm not a programmer, so I can't solve the problem. * That's not

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Andrea Govoni wrote: I hate to betray my own words but I cannot resist the temptation… '-_- On 14/02/10 18:03, Benoit Renard wrote: That's not the message I was referring to, though the message I am referring to is quoted in it. I'm referring to this passage: "I have tab

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-15 Thread Benoit Renard
Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Several times, over the years, I have suggested that there *SHOULD* be a clickable link as part of the Mail& Newsgroup splash screen, but, sadly, I'm still waiting. The alteration would have to happen in "chrome://me

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-14 Thread Benoit Renard
Andrea Govoni wrote: Ray_Net, I promise this is my last message in this thread. Il 12/02/10 14:58, Daniel ha scritto: Andrea, Phillip's message, in which he claims New Windows are ten times faster than New Tabs is 16th in this chain. So, you are referring to this [1] message. Well, by readin

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Benoit Renard
Chris Ilias wrote: Personally, I've never used the Forms Manager...but the only reason I haven't that I can determine now that I'm reading so much displeasure about it's removal is that I couldn't determine if information it stores is encrypted or not. If it was and a dialog box had told me that,

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Andrea Govoni wrote: Philip Jones is talking about SeaMonkey performance when opening external links (like links from the mailnews SeaMonkey component) in the *same window* as opposed to opening them in *new windows*. Lee tested opening external links in *new windows* as opposed to opening them i

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-07 Thread Benoit Renard
Andrea Govoni wrote: On 01/02/10 09:06, John Doue wrote: So forgive me for asking the obvious, but would not it be possible to have the install routine display a notice of "our" existence? Better yet, to have it included somehow in the Help menu? Actually, each time you install or update SeaMo

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-02 Thread Benoit Renard
JD wrote: Not to jump in at the hopefully end of this thread, but SeaMonkey is a "Suite" of programs. If you just want a browser and a separate e-mail program then maybe you should try some other programs that better suit your needs? SeaMonkey has always been a /modular/ suite. It could be a

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-01 Thread Benoit Renard
Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/31/2010 12:35 PM, Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I don't understand why people complains about installing SM as a browser-only. If they don't want the mail or the news parts in SM, they can use their preferred ones. The proble

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Benoit Renard
NoOp wrote: On 01/29/2010 03:36 PM, Russell wrote: As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Benoit Renard
Ray_Net wrote: I don't understand why people complains about installing SM as a browser-only. If they don't want the mail or the news parts in SM, they can use their preferred ones. The problem with 2.0.x is that you can't opt out of an e-mail client, and this meant that mailto: links will op

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Benoit Renard
Rufus wrote: ...OTOH, finding a product provider which will actually provide service and/or options to it's user base when they ask is far more important. I've learned to stop asking. It's about useless... Some developers do want to listen to users, but they're either 1) busy on other things

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Russell wrote: The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but that it must be an ‘all or nothing' suite. So if you need to use another email client then it will just screw up your whole way of working. I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors'

Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread Benoit Renard
robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites? I always did it through File > Upload File... instead of drag&drop. Is it possible to still do it that way in SeaMonkey 2.0.x? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Windows as of 98 (last I saw close up) works click delete with application and it moves to Wastebasket. Then click on wastebasket and choose from menu item empty. There is no question. once you choose empty its gone. This is

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-17 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Windows as of 98 (last I saw close up) works click delete with application and it moves to Wastebasket. Then click on wastebasket and choose from menu item empty. There is no question. once you choose empty its gone. This is wrong. Windows always asks if you are sure when

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Benoit Renard
Hartmut Figge wrote: David E. Ross: I was used to setting alias rm='rm -i' but I was working at a location other than my usual. I entered rm * Quickly realizing what I had done, I then entered CTRL-C But it was too late. I didn't lose all my files, but I lost too many.

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-13 Thread Benoit Renard
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL.

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-12 Thread Benoit Renard
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up "Web pages"

Re: XUL MSNmessenger

2010-01-04 Thread Benoit Renard
compositor wrote: I got this plug in called xul msn messenger and I installed it in Seamonkey, but it won't keep me logged in. That's weird. It's only supposed to log you out if you were disconnected. But it can also happen in the case of an error in the main code. Is there any relevant error

Re: Post at mozillazine

2010-01-01 Thread Benoit Renard
Jay Garcia wrote: On 31.12.2009 22:11, compositor wrote: Hi, I made this post at MozillaZine community, but was wondering if someone could answer it here instead. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1675775&p=8356645#p8356645 Hope Someone can help! Please post your questi

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-22 Thread Benoit Renard
NFN Smith wrote: Daniel wrote: it's easier just to say "Firefox" as the majority option, rather than "an XUL browser". A web browser doesn't need to use XUL to use the Gecko rendering engine. Look at K-Meleon for a good example. I think Camino doesn't use XUL either. _

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-22 Thread Benoit Renard
MCBastos wrote: Again, it's a matter of manpower. SM *was* going somewhat independently from Firefox for the last few years, on the 1.1 branch -- and what was the result? The rendering engine was looking more and more dated every day, ditto for the Javascript engine and other core stuff. That h

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Benoit Renard
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work, at least without Multizilla, which basically converted it to ano

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-20 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Never mind you still can't see a users point of view. The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what we were talking about. It was a development issue, plain and simple. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list supp

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-19 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to do a port of it in the new code. This is correct. (Despite all the protesta

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Paul Hartman wrote: some AJAX-heavy sites that don't work entirely properly in Seamonkey for whatever reason (Facebook, Google Sites, etc). In FaceBook's case, that's known to be caused by browser sniffing. Complain to FaceBook to get them to stop this nonsense. __

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Leonidas Jones wrote: I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images. From here it appears to either images and text or nothing. I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.moz

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Also if some one sends you an image as an attachment that is so large you have to scroll side to side or up and down the is a menu choice Autofit and it reduce to fit screen. That feature has been built-in since SeaMonkey 1.1.x. Open the image directly (which you probab

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to do a port of it in the new code. This is correct. (Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided be

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
hawker wrote: Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users? Yup! That's me. A message board I visited many years back had Linux fan on it who regularly praised the suite, then known as Mozilla. I tried it, and never looked back.

Re: Seamonkey 2.0, support for html attributes 'ALT' and 'TITLE'

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Lucas Levrel wrote: 1) force its installation - in about:config, create a new string general.useragent.extra.firefox and set it to Firefox/3.5 - in about:config set extensions.checkCompatibility to false - install from the above link This isn't how you should go about things. It's a bit point

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when you don't even use the thing?

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. No, it's not wrong. Everyone who dislikes the new progress dialog a

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: We regret that there are some where this isn't the case and try to help if we get a clear picture of what went wrong and what can be done. "It's JUNK" isn't a such clear picture at all. Sorry. Like some others, you conveniently mistake John Boyle for Bush, who created thi

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: This is a subject that has been gone over from time to time. In most groups sniping is recommended. Don't shoot me! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees tha

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: left out (for no reason) stuff How many times do we have to explain that the move from XPFE to toolkit meant losing features that didn't have a proper equivalent in it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
John wrote: Philip Chee wrote: You didn't do something totally stupid and kept your iTunes library inside the SeaMonkey application directory did you? Otherwise SeaMonkey has totally no idea where your iTunes library lives so it would be totally unable to trash it even if it wanted to. Phil T

Re: Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?

2009-12-06 Thread Benoit Renard
Hartmut Figge wrote: Difficult. In the above sentence, should it be 'wording' or 'words' or something else? *g* Wording: how it is said. Words: plural of word ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-01 Thread Benoit Renard
Jay Garcia wrote: Why is a "release" based on a "beta" ? From what I've heard, Thunderbird was taking forever, and SeaMonkey 2.0 was already taking a long time to materialise. Things needed to move forward so work could start on the next release. _

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Benoit Renard
John Boyle wrote: My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but, as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people, however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Bush wrote: I'll try again after version 2.5 is released This is SeaMonkey, not Firefox. We don't do silly .5 version number jumps. ;) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Problem is they drop support and updates on 1.1.8 as soon as 2 went gold. so if there are any security problems, it won't be updated. Please spell the version number correctly. It's "1.1.18", the 18th security and stability update. SeaMonkey 1.1.x hasn't been pronounced

Re: Defragmentation

2009-11-27 Thread Benoit Renard
Bill Davidsen wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. There is, it's called Linux. ;-) Doesn't require defrag, as is true with OS/X as well. Doesn't that de

Re: SM2 : Mouse cursor when loading a page

2009-11-25 Thread Benoit Renard
obones wrote: In SM1, when a page is currently loading, the mouse cursor changes to the "Application starting" cursor. That is, the arrow with a little hourglass. Now in SM2, there is no visual indication on the mouse cursor that the page is loading. (snip) Is there a way to reactivate the pr

Re: Website problems

2009-11-22 Thread Benoit Renard
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Hard to know /what/ this is -- an embedded graphic in the XHTML code??? Hell, it took IE four minutes just to /display/ all this crap in Notepad. It's ASP state information for the ASP server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing

Re: Website problems

2009-11-22 Thread Benoit Renard
David E. Ross wrote: The page has 762 XHTML errors and 9 (or more) CSS errors. While many different browsers are designed to attempt to render pages containing errors, there are limits beyond which such attempts cannot succeed. They are designed to make such attempts if the pages are HTML. Pro

Re: Website problems

2009-11-21 Thread Benoit Renard
Cedar wrote: When I go to this website with SM 2: www.cattlenetwork.com, I get the following error message: XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: . (snip) Any ideas what this might be about? The website is using XHTML, which requires it to be well-formed. But it's not well-formed,

Re: SM 2.0 Download Progress Dialog...

2009-11-19 Thread Benoit Renard
Daniel wrote: Talk about "Bloat"!! In SM 1.x you could just install the SM browser if that was all you wanted...Now some bright spark has decided that you MUST install every bit of SM (browser, mail/news, composer, chatzilla, etc.) or no bits at all. The browser and composer always had to

Re: SM 2.0 Download Progress Dialog...

2009-11-19 Thread Benoit Renard
NoOp wrote: On 11/18/2009 09:03 AM, Benoit Renard wrote: NoOp wrote: My apologies; I've also been informed by jens that the bug is related to where the file has been downloaded *locally*. Sorry, never paid much attention to that "feature" as I set downloads to go to only one fo

Re: no uninstall function for zip of Mozilla 1.18

2009-11-18 Thread Benoit Renard
Daniel wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Pierre wrote: I downloaded the zip file for Mozilla 1.18 to a folder where I keep program downloads. When I unzipped it, it automatically installed itself in this folder, but without an uninstall file to remove it. It was not installed, hence why you can&#

Re: SM 2.0 Download Progress Dialog...

2009-11-18 Thread Benoit Renard
NoOp wrote: My apologies; I've also been informed by jens that the bug is related to where the file has been downloaded *locally*. Sorry, never paid much attention to that "feature" as I set downloads to go to only one folder & can find the file by a search if I'm not paying attention and it goes

Re: Classic look for Seamonkey 2.0?

2009-11-17 Thread Benoit Renard
Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: Is there any chance a "Classic Theme" could be added which would give the option to keep the same exact look. You can get a port of the Classic theme on addons.mozilla.org (AMO). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list s

Re: SM 2.0 Download Progress Dialog...

2009-11-17 Thread Benoit Renard
NoOp wrote: Regarding the size of the buttons; very much agree. There was a dission over on the mozilla.support.seamonkey group prior to the release of SM 2.0. Maybe they'll be adjusted in 2.0.x. Unfortunately, such things don't get changed in minor releases. ___

Re: no uninstall function for zip of Mozilla 1.18

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard
Pierre wrote: I downloaded the zip file for Mozilla 1.18 to a folder where I keep program downloads. When I unzipped it, it automatically installed itself in this folder, but without an uninstall file to remove it. It was not installed, hence why you can't uninstall it. As the other poster sai

Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard
Rufus wrote: SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features. What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by default

Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard
Ant wrote: Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is /not/ based on Firefox 2.0.0.20. It's not even based on Firefox. It's based on Gecko, and a newer version than the Gecko that shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.20, at that. _

Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)

2009-11-12 Thread Benoit Renard
John Doue wrote: First, I think it would be more fair to say that few add-ons are yet available for SM 2.0. I think this is quite normal, give some time to the authors to do the necessary changes for those add ons which remain relevant and to create new ones specifically designed for SM 2.0 T

Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)

2009-11-12 Thread Benoit Renard
Mike C wrote: There are a few add ons that won't work. The two that I know of are: Tabbrowser Extension and Extension Mgr You don't need the crappy Extension Manager extension anymore. SeaMonkey has its own manager now. ___ support-seamonkey mailing

Re: Copy & Paste

2009-11-12 Thread Benoit Renard
psuatocobra wrote: A MozillaZine Forums post, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1558785&start=15 , contains an interesting comment: "Look, the problem is with Seamonkey when you try to copy text out of it. Every other browser allows copy without problem. I am having the same is

Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

2009-11-10 Thread Benoit Renard
OldTimer wrote: Well, you're right as usual! NS 7.1 is installed and all the mail & addresses are there - in spite of the fact that the readme file stated requirements of Win 98 or higher, 64 MB RAM & 233 MZ or faster - all of which I do not meet. Thanks, I would have given up at that point.

Re: New Seamonkey

2009-11-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Well after a version change the grippies suddenly disappeared and the was a mass outrage over the deletion of them. Wow, you must be talking about a /long/ time ago, before even Mozilla 1.2. Back then there were many more developers working on Mozilla, so it's definitely

Re: New Seamonkey

2009-11-09 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: The Modern Theme included does have the Grippies. Finally the Moz crew came to their senses. The Moz crew? Welcome to the SeaMonkey crew. We are not Mozilla. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org h

Re: Potable SM Q

2009-11-03 Thread Benoit Renard
Lou wrote: Potable SM Q No, you can't drink SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

2009-11-03 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: I've always had JavaScript enabled for mail and news since back in Netscape navigator days and not once have I had a problem with JavaScript. I am aware there are supposed to be issues with JavaScript. But I've never experienced them. Please think of another argument for yo

Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

2009-11-03 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: NoOp wrote: javascript.allow.mailnews;false But maybe it got carried over with the transfer from 1.1.18? someone had not said something maybe , it will be safe. Now there will be a concerted attack to remove it. Are you almost done translating our concern for security

Re: Missig install script? Downloadable or what?

2009-10-30 Thread Benoit Renard
jim wrote: Win XP SP2 Seamonkey 1.1.18 I tried to get Session Manager for Seamonkey at: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/search The result of successful download and installation attempt was that the "Software Installation" dialog said "install script not found". jim That ver

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: I've heard more reports of 1.1.x users suddenly losing their whole profile as I've heard reports of users losing data when migrating to 2.0 But then again, 2.0 was just released, while 1.1.x has existed for a couple yea

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Marcelo wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 29/10/2009 13:18, Benoit Renard told the world: Robert Kaiser wrote: This is not our decision, it's the Mozilla toolkit that is dropping support for that after 3 years of no well-maintained new major release with that infrastructure - it's

Re: 2.0 and favicons

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: You may also need to check "Aggressively look for website icons when the page does not define one". NO. That preference shouldn't even exist. It enables non-standard behaviour that pisses people hosting the sites off. ___ s

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: According to threads previous about developers I though that developers were made out to be just like regular users? The Comment above proves a point I tried to make but was scoffed at. Like I said developers either design for Board of Directors, and the

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: This is not our decision, it's the Mozilla toolkit that is dropping support for that after 3 years of no well-maintained new major release with that infrastructure - it's just that SeaMonkey did take quite long to do an actual release based on the new code. What's stoppin

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Isn't there an early build out there that supports Gecko 1.9.1.x but still has the SeaMonkey 1.1.x UI ? And btw, now that wqe have a newer release, 1.1.18 is badly insecure, 80% of all security holes fixed in Gecko 1.9.1.1 to 1.

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: I've heard more reports of 1.1.x users suddenly losing their whole profile as I've heard reports of users losing data when migrating to 2.0 But then again, 2.0 was just released, while 1.1.x has existed for a couple years already. It's not a fair comparison. Also, often th

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Isn't there an early build out there that supports Gecko 1.9.1.x but still has the SeaMonkey 1.1.x UI ? And btw, now that wqe have a newer release, 1.1.18 is badly insecure, 80% of all security holes fixed in Gecko 1.9.1.1 to 1.9.1.4 do exist in SeaMonkey 1.

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: They make Java work in Sandbox (whatever that is). Why can't Java-script. Look up what a sandbox in the context of computers is first so you know what you're talking about. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@li

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote: Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!). But related not to Java-script. A quick Google search suggests otherwise: http://w

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-27 Thread Benoit Renard
Bill Davidsen wrote: mailing links to pages which have the js doesn't make thing more secure, just less convenient. It does make it more secure. With no JavaScript in the e-mail message, you can't get exposed to the JavaScript just by opening the message. You have to choose to visit the page.

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Benoit Renard
Daniel wrote: I don't know about this "Dead Link" feature being in Communicator, but maybe it was. I've used AM-Deadlink for the last ten years or so, and, as far as I can see, there would only be a link to a Spammer page in my address book if I put it there. So AM-Deadlink (or the Communicat

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Benoit Renard
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:36:01 +0100, /Benoit Renard/: Plus, with tabs, I can rearrange them with drag&drop. Something that Windows couldn't do with its taskbar until Windows 7! For this I'm using Taskbar Shuffle <http://www.freewebs.com/nerdcave/> -

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Hell, that was a joke! Am I the only person in the world who uses some humor in blog posts now and then? It would seem that you poorly communicated that it was a joke, as asmpgmr isn't the only one who thought you were being serious. __

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: I've got a PNG image of the dialog or Modal window if you want to see it. He meant how the dialog's code looks, not how the dialog itself looks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: For example I've always thought Tabs was not what most users wanted, because it was a gee-whiz-bang feature that was in IE. we had to have it. You're wrong. OR, how about killing javascript, in Thunderbird. Security risk, as pointed out above. There was a Feature in C

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
asmpgmr wrote: I don't like tabs either and see them as a pointless waste of screen space when the OS already has window management and its own taskbar which can be hidden The taskbar becomes less efficient the more buttons it has. Having tabs means that your taskbar is not cluttered with tons

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). If I remember correctly, Maxthon was first with tabs, but that was a shell for IE. Opera was the first web browser to be shipped with tabs bu

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It doesn't have a place in e-mail messages in the first place. It's a

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Tabs waste resources. Each page in a tab as cache and use memory to store. While I have 2 GB Memory in current Laptop with today's web pages that can be easily filled up is I have a bunch of Tabs open. What are you talking about? I only have 160 MB of RAM, and I can easily

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-24 Thread Benoit Renard
NoOp wrote: There two other methods that you can try: 1. Right-click on the Inbox folder, select 'Rebuild Summary File'. If that doesn't work: 2. Close SeaMonkey and delete (or better yet, rename) the inbox .msf files, see: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/ for the location. The msf file

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-24 Thread Benoit Renard
asmpgmr wrote: - download progress dialog was apparently intentionally hobbled (and a patch to improve it rejected) To be fair, it was rejected based on review criteria instead of developer opinion. Neil (who reviewed my patch) doesn't like the new download progress dialog either. __

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