On 12-04-01 8:21 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-31 3:35 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
It would seem that someone feels that they can't defend the lack of
choice *OR* explain why can't/shouldn't be fixed, so they just keep
pretending the issue doesn't exist.
Bill, that is bor
On 4/1/12 5:34 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Rufus wrote:
>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>> Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> Despite
> having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
> some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
> ever saying "We ar
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-31 3:35 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the
user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any
explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug r
Rufus wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Despite
having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
ever saying "We are considering doing so-and-so for
a future release, and would be interest
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-31 3:35 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
It would seem that someone feels that they can't defend the lack of
choice *OR* explain why can't/shouldn't be fixed, so they just keep
pretending the issue doesn't exist.
Bill, that is borderline on a personal attack. If you have
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/31/12 12:59 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Trying to say this nicely, some developers are more concerned than
others what the users think. Does the phrase "it's FOSS, if you don't
like don't use it, or maintain your own version."
"ring any bells" ?
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
>>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
>>> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>>> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top
On 3/31/12 12:59 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>
>
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
>> Trying to say this nicely, some developers are more concerned than
>> others what the users think. Does the phrase "it's FOSS, if you don't
>> like don't use it, or maintain your own version."
>
> "ring any bells" ? No,
On 12-03-31 3:35 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the
user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any
explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug report
to request suc
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Despite
having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
ever saying "We are considering doing so-and-so for
a future release, and would be interested to learn ho
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justif
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Trying to say this nicely, some developers are more concerned than
others what the users think. Does the phrase "it's FOSS, if you don't
like don't use it, or maintain your own version."
"ring any bells" ? No, but I am quite willing to believe that
such an attitude exis
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display
Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen.
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
In this case it was a by design *core* change that caused it. And as
such we did not come to the *SeaMonkey* user community to explicitly ask
about it.
Though in *theory* we could override the core choice here, I don't see a
strongly compellin
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Despite
having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
ever saying "We are considering doing so-and-so for
a future release, and would be interested to learn how
the user community f
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-25 11:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
I submitted bug #738948,
What I do not understand is why, if Kimura is so adamant that the user
should have NO option, the implementation of bug #376997 did not
contain
cod
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-25 11:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
I submitted bug #738948,
What I do not understand is why, if Kimura is so adamant that the user
should have NO option, the implementation of bug #376997 did not contain
cod
On 12-03-25 11:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
I submitted bug #738948,
What I do not understand is why, if Kimura is so adamant that the user
should have NO option, the implementation of bug #376997 did not contain
code to block installat
On 3/25/12 2:23 AM, Daniel wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
>>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
>>> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>>> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top
Daniel wrote, On 25/03/2012 11:23:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justif
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen. Is this chan
On 25/03/2012 03:37, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
>> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified o
On 03/24/2012 08:12 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/24/12 4:32 PM, WLS wrote:
>> On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around
On 3/24/12 4:32 PM, WLS wrote:
> On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
>>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
>>> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>>> previous way through 2.7.2
On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
>> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justifie
David E. Ross wrote, On 24/03/2012 20:37:
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote:
> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
> not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
> white screen. Is this change by design?
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
OK, I have no idea of what "M.D.A.Seamonkey" is a contraction,
I referred to the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup which is used for
SeaMonkey development coordination. As Chris already wrote, there's also
a mailing list access option for that.
Hmm, I don't feel thi
On 12-03-16 8:55 AM, _Philip TAYLOR_ spoke thusly:
Jens Hatlak wrote:
Changes, especially core code ones, are usually only discussed in
the respective Bugzilla bugs, or maybe in some cases in meetings that
I don't attend (don't know). For SM changes it's similar (except the
meetings part); if d
Jens Hatlak wrote:
For the latter part: That's because we don't do that. It would
probably bring development to a full halt (and I think it already is
way too slow, but I wouldn't be surprised if we disagreed about
that).
Ideas for future versions are usually discussed in Bugzilla bugs or
o
On 3/15/12 6:53 PM, Jim Taylor wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>
> Snip
>> Not sure. However if you 'view image' (any image from any site), sample:
>> http://cafxx.strayorange.com/ImageTweak.png
>> and 'view page info|links' you'll find:
>> a stylesheet link for:
>> resource://gre/res/TopLevelImageDocument.c
Jim Taylor wrote:
NoOp wrote:
Snip
Not sure. However if you 'view image' (any image from any site), sample:
http://cafxx.strayorange.com/ImageTweak.png
and 'view page info|links' you'll find:
a stylesheet link for:
resource://gre/res/TopLevelImageDocument.css
You can enter that in the URI bar&
NoOp wrote:
Snip
Not sure. However if you 'view image' (any image from any site), sample:
http://cafxx.strayorange.com/ImageTweak.png
and 'view page info|links' you'll find:
a stylesheet link for:
resource://gre/res/TopLevelImageDocument.css
You can enter that in the URI bar& it will display th
NoOp wrote:
On 03/15/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:
...
I noticed this change right away, but the odd thing for me was that it
seemed to work for some sites and still display the old way for
others...so I'm wondering, does the site content provider have some
control over this display mode?
Not s
On 03/15/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:
...
>
> I noticed this change right away, but the odd thing for me was that it
> seemed to work for some sites and still display the old way for
> others...so I'm wondering, does the site content provider have some
> control over this display mode?
Not sure
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 4:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/15/12 3:44 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
But I still have no clear recollection of the Seamonkey team
approaching this list with ideas for future versions of Seamonkey
and asking for feedback on acceptability.
F
On 03/15/2012 11:25 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
>> SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not
>> full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
>> previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left ju
Jim Taylor wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not
full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that
are not full screen centered with a black border around the
picture. Is this change by design
Yes, it's by design.
I have no st
On 3/15/12 4:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/15/12 3:44 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>>> But I still have no clear recollection of the Seamonkey team
>>> approaching this list with ideas for future versions of Seamonkey
>>> and asking for feedback on acceptability.
>>
>> For th
On 3/15/12 3:44 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>> But I still have no clear recollection of the Seamonkey team
>> approaching this list with ideas for future versions of Seamonkey
>> and asking for feedback on acceptability.
>
> For the latter part: That's because we don't do that.
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
But I still have no clear recollection of the Seamonkey team
approaching this list with ideas for future versions of Seamonkey
and asking for feedback on acceptability.
For the latter part: That's because we don't do that. It would probably
bring development to a full halt
Jim Taylor wrote:
What bothers me is that I got blind sided by it. Maybe I missed
something but I looked in the release notes and changes and didn't
see anything about it until I posted here and Chris and you answered.
That seems like a pretty big change to just drop in without even
being listed
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Despite
having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
ever saying "We are considering doing so-and-so for
a future release, and would be interested to learn how
the user community f
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not
full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen. Is th
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
In this case it was a by design *core* change that caused it. And as
such we did not come to the *SeaMonkey* user community to explicitly ask
about it.
Though in *theory* we could override the core choice here, I don't see a
strongly compelling reason to do so.
O
Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> Despite
> having been a subscriber to this mailing list for quite
> some time, I have no recollection of the Seamonkey team
> ever saying "We are considering doing so-and-so for
> a future release, and would be interested to learn how
> the user community feel about it".
In
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that
are not full screen centered with a black border around the
picture. Is this change by design
Yes, it's by design.
I have no strong feelings one way
On 12-03-15 12:56 PM, _Jim Taylor_ spoke thusly:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not
full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen. Is this change by design?
Jim Taylor wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not
full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some
set
SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are
not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The
previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a
white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some
setting I can cha
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