Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Ilias
On 13-01-22 5:13 AM, Daniel wrote: Roger, in a previous life, these support groups (or their forerunners) were on the secnews.netscape.com news server and there, in the support groups, the preference was to not trim at all. When those groups closed and the move was made here, the policy changed.

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-22 Thread Béèm
Daniel wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, th

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-22 Thread Daniel
Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, the more suspicio

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-21 Thread NoOp
On 01/21/2013 05:39 AM, Rickles wrote: > Daniel wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: ... >>> OK, folks, it's time to start pruning. >>> >>> Did this message really need to include 158 lines of previous messages? >>> >> >> Yes, Paul, it did, because that's how the poster wanted it!! ;-) >> > And yeah,

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-21 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Rickles wrote: And yeah, I did that to make it easier for a new reader to catch up, because as a technical person, I've found that's easier that having to to refer to different messages. Sorry if that gets up your nose, but I've worked that way on electronics in the military, and now IT as a ci

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-21 Thread Roger Fink
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: > >> I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in >> solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but >> it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the >> diagnostic tree, the more suspicious you

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-21 Thread Rickles
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, the more suspicious y

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-21 Thread Daniel
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, the more suspicious you need to be o

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, the more suspicious you need to be of the latest definitive co

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-20 Thread Roger Fink
Rickles wrote: > Rickles wrote: >> Roger Fink wrote: >>> Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: >> Roger Fink wrote: >>> Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >> Michael Gordon wrote: >> >>> SM 2.15 effect

Unbelieveable!!--was "Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!"

2013-01-20 Thread Rickles
Rickles wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and r

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-20 Thread Rickles
Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA appl

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-20 Thread Rickles
Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Roger Fink
Rickles wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: >> Roger Fink wrote: >>> Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Michael Gordon wrote: >>> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and r

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime
Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Rickles
Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last n

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Fink
Roger Fink wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: >> Rickles wrote: >>> Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Michael Gordon wrote: > >> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had >> SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in >> the Ad-

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Fink
Roger Fink wrote: > Rickles wrote: >> Roger Fink wrote: >>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: > SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had > SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the > Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I u

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Fink
Rickles wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Michael Gordon wrote: >>> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Rickles
Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run. ... Side note

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Roger Fink
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Michael Gordon wrote: > >> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM >> 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the >> Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets >> would not run. ... >> >> Side note:

Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run. ... Side note: Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem wi