Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com - SUB frequency range

2015-04-22 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
OK Dave - I was mostly referencing to "high quality Subs" in home/small to medium sized listening spaces.. I do not really have experience in large scale sound systems - here is a few google finds. The chest cavity resonates between 80 to 95 hz was my thinking and seems to be correct, read En

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com - SUB frequency range

2015-04-22 Thread Peter Lennox
I've briefly tried to find a reference on lower bounds for phase-locking, which would limit directional acuity at the bottom of LF, and haven't yet.. I'll try again. It seems to me that all the other constraints on LF directional hearing are acoustic, to do with standing waves. In a large arra

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com - SUB frequency range

2015-04-22 Thread Peter Lennox
Richard Warren, in "Auditory Perception: a New Synthesis" implies, on p 84, a broader range of 50-100Hz (as a notional lower bound of capability for spectral resolution, which would be required for phase locking) - so that would imply that 80 is not a bad working figure in real environments. Dr

[Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread Eero Aro
Hmm... Interesting: http://3dsoundlabs.com/en/ http://3dsoundlabs.com/en/how-does-it-work/#psychoacoustique Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or op

Re: [Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread Dave Malham
lham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/

Re: [Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Dave Malham wrote: Yep, interesting indeed - but they don't once mention the height dimension, always talking about 360 degrees which implies planar only. Is this, I wonder, just an accidental omission or is the system really limited this way? Seems unlikely given the 9 axes motion/position sens

[Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread jon burton
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Re: [Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Stefan Schreiber wrote: Dave Malham wrote: Yep, interesting indeed - but they don't once mention the height dimension, always talking about 360 degrees which implies planar only. Is this, I wonder, just an accidental omission or is the system really limited this way? Seems unlikely given the

Re: [Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread mgraves
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/22/2015 06:49 PM, jon burton wrote: Hi I am new to the group but hoping someone may be able to help. I am looking at the positive effects of low frequencies in music, predominantly below 50Hz. This involves aural as well as mechanosensations. I am interested in seeing if reinforcing the lo

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Peter Lennox
I'd be interested in any references indicating deleterious effects on hearing of high amplitudes at LF, if anyone comes across any cheers ppl Dr. Peter Lennox Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy Senior Lecturer in Perception College of Arts University of Derby Tel: 01332 593155

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread jon burton
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Re: [Sursound] 3D Sound Labs Neoh headphones

2015-04-22 Thread Eric Benjamin
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Steven Boardman
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread jon burton
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Peter Lennox
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced > with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the > bass a lot. So there is plenty anecdotal evidence for more bass > resulting in less weight

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Steven Boardman
Not sure I would consider it a negative, as it does increase my listening pleasure! Hopefully the audiences too :-) Steve -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150422/ec4cc

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/22/2015 10:50 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the bass a lot. So there is plenty anecdotal eviden

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Jonathan Burton
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Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread jon burton
Increasing European legislation is pushing concert levels to a maximum of 100dBA over a 10-15min LEQ. In doors in France the norm is 103 dBA over 10 mins. Switzerland has a generous 100dBA over 60 minutes. At open air festivals the level can be as low as 95dBA or 10 minutes. The days of unrestra