Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Warning!!! Commercial Post!!! On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Gregorio Garcia Karman < ggkar...@musicologia.com> wrote: > On 7 Dec, 2012, at Fri 7 Dec 14:56 , Andrew Horsburgh < > andrew.horsbu...@uws.ac.uk> wrote: > > That with the matrix is interesting. Do you mean controlling the gain of > th

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Am 09.12.2012 12:12, schrieb Jörn Nettingsmeier: iiuc, connecting each card to an always-active wc source directly should have avoided the issue, right? when i get the chance, i'll check that. Adding that the source is coherent for all cards involved (which I guess you implied) this is correct

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Am 09.12.2012 13:00, schrieb Fons Adriaensen: Apart from that, syncing cards requires more than just a common clock, you also need a single 'start' signal distributed in HW ('start' meaning that the next sample will be at position 0 in the first buffer). If the start signal is just distributed in

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

> From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf > Of Gregorio Garcia Karman [ggkar...@musicologia.com] > Sent: 07 December 2012 12:15 > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Subject: Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out s

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 06:20 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: Been lurking (with interest (and financial envy ;-)> ) : Jörn wrote: but with the andiamo you get rid of the toslink risk, Could you explain, that comment ? Thanks in advance, Michael. the andiamo is a MADI device, hence no adat connecto

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 05:20:04PM -, Michael Chapman wrote: > > Been lurking (with interest (and financial envy ;-)> ) : > > > Jörn wrote: > > > but with the > > andiamo you get rid of the toslink risk, > > Could you explain, that comment ? I guess it just means that first converting M

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Been lurking (with interest (and financial envy ;-)> ) : Jörn wrote: > but with the > andiamo you get rid of the toslink risk, Could you explain, that comment ? Thanks in advance, Michael. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 01:00 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 12:12:15PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: i could imagine how a situation like you describe could come about when wiring the cards this way, but it feels a bit weird. iiuc, connecting each card to an always-active wc sourc

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 12:12:15PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > i could imagine how a situation like you describe could come about > when wiring the cards this way, but it feels a bit weird. iiuc, > connecting each card to an always-active wc source directly should > have avoided the issue,

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 10:06 AM, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Am 07.12.2012 20:16, schrieb Jörn Nettingsmeier: as mentioned by someone else, rme hdsps can be ganged. _but_ i've seen weird timing issues with an old hdsp madi pci and a hdsp madi pcie - they would be in perfect sync, but with random offsets of p

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 01:40 AM, Augustine Leudar wrote: So Im trying to find a price for these Andiamo things : http://www.directout.eu/en/products/andiamo.html Does anyone know more or less how much they cost or can anyone post a link - cant seem to find it on sale anywhere ? their uk distributors a

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Am 07.12.2012 20:16, schrieb Jörn Nettingsmeier: as mentioned by someone else, rme hdsps can be ganged. _but_ i've seen weird timing issues with an old hdsp madi pci and a hdsp madi pcie - they would be in perfect sync, but with random offsets of plus/minus several hundred samples, apparently r

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

So Im trying to find a price for these Andiamo things : http://www.directout.eu/en/products/andiamo.html Does anyone know more or less how much they cost or can anyone post a link - cant seem to find it on sale anywhere ? On 8 December 2012 23:14, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Jörn Nettingsmeier w

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: if you want height because you're unhappy with the degree of ambience and envelopment that horizontal wfs offers you, then just restrict yourself to direct sources on the horizontal plane and add a few speakers above and below. use algorithmic reverb to feed them.

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/08/2012 11:54 AM, Augustine Leudar wrote: HI Jorn, Thanks for the well informed reply as usual. honestly, for a system like that, i wouldn't think about windows even for a split second. there is really only one sane system choice, and that is clearly linux. for your frontend and user exp

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

HI Jorn, Thanks for the well informed reply as usual. > > honestly, for a system like that, i wouldn't think about windows even for > a split second. there is really only one sane system choice, and that is > clearly linux. for your frontend and user experience, by all means go with > windows if i

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

yes Matts uses Vbap between two arrays for height - but only works on windows thus far On 7 December 2012 21:50, Miguel Negrao < miguel.negrao-li...@friendlyvirus.org> wrote: > > A 07/12/2012, às 17:05, Augustine Leudar escreveu: > > > Thanks Joseph, > > Actually Miguel works in the same room

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

A 07/12/2012, às 17:05, Augustine Leudar escreveu: > Thanks Joseph, > Actually Miguel works in the same room as me but I haven't been in > much recently - Do you know if game of life can be adpated to do > height as well ? Well, I do see you there from time to time... ;-) No it doesn’t work wit

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/06/2012 10:37 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: Hi all, I am looking for economical ways of building a 256 channel out system which will be connected to 256 speakers for a wavefield synthesis system. I do not need a desk - or even inputs. You can get an RME HDSPe MADI FX for around £1000 which wi

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/06/2012 11:35 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:37:42PM +, Augustine Leudar wrote: I was thinking if I could cut down on the madi to adat boxes or DA converters - is there something which uses D-SUB 25 out for example ? Some sort of Madi-analogue converter with lot

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

obviously Id love to spend millions of pounbds on the best sytem - but these days getting any money at all for experimental arts projects is challenging ! On 07/12/2012, Gregorio Garcia Karman wrote: > Dear Augustine, I guess you are right. Congratulations for your past > achievements and good lu

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Dear Augustine, I guess you are right. Congratulations for your past achievements and good luck setting up the WFS system. I certainly look forward to listen to the results if around. Best. G > I have received excellent reviews and feedback for > the last seven sound installations I've done with

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Thanks Joseph, Actually Miguel works in the same room as me but I haven't been in much recently - Do you know if game of life can be adpated to do height as well ? On 07/12/2012, Joseph Anderson wrote: > Hello Augustine, > > > The Game of Life Foundation has a package for SuperCollider: > > http:

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

> > Sure, art and engineering are different things. I was only trying to help > you by encouraging to compare and judge by yourself but if you prefer to > trust what is posted in a forum then that's perfectly fine with me. > If you read my previous post you'll see I have already used them and judg

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Hello Augustine, The Game of Life Foundation has a package for SuperCollider: http://gameoflife.nl/en https://github.com/GameOfLife/WFSCollider/downloads https://github.com/GameOfLife/WFSCollider-Class-Library My best, ~~ Joseph Anderson Artist: http://joseph

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

niversity of the West of Scotland, www.uws.ac.uk From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Gregorio Garcia Karman [ggkar...@musicologia.com] Sent: 07 December 2012 12:15 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [S

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

> > Lots of people quite surprised/horrified . Differing yes - but if you look > at the result 80% of people voted for the Behringers - and this is one of > the largest communities of sound engineers on the web who would have been > listening on their own equipment at home/studio - sure a couple

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

PS - the reason I'm using windows is that the only WFS software that allows for height information is compiled for windows - WFSdesigner by Matt Montag- Soundscape renderer on Linux is excellant but I dont think it does height - anyone know of any others ? -- next part -- An

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

> > I would be quite surprised, particularly on the A/D end. Although the > differences between converters may be getting subtler nowadays, I have come > across a few online blind listening tests and measurements prepared by > users, which differ significantly from you actually get at home. Note th

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 7 Dec, 2012, at Fri 7 Dec 08:38 , Gregorio Garcia Karman wrote: >> and 8 of these: >> >> https://www.kmraudio.com/focusrite-r...-interface.php >> >> might be good though :- down to £10,000 ! would you mind posting the link again?

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 7 Dec, 2012, at Fri 7 Dec 03:12 , Augustine Leudar wrote: > Thanks for the replies. > Actually the Behringers are petty good despite being Behringer they > actually outperformed an AD converter 20 times their price in a blind test > recently which left many engineers redfaced . Read the hi

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Gregorio Garcia Karman < ggkar...@musicologia.com> wrote: > > p 33 of the RME HDSPe MADI FX english manual: you may use up to three MADI > FX on one machine using OSX aggregation: "The current driver supports up to > three HDSPe in any combination" There seem to

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: > Hi all, > I am looking for economical ways of building a 256 channel out system which > will be connected to 256 speakers for a wavefield synthesis system. I do > not need a desk - or even inputs. > You can get an RME HDSPe MADI FX for arou

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Thanks for the replies. Actually the Behringers are petty good despite being Behringer they actually outperformed an AD converter 20 times their price in a blind test recently which left many engineers redfaced . Read the hilarityor even try it yourself here

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

> Question 1 > anyone know how to do a 256 channel system ? - can you expand the rme with > an extra 64 channels somehow ? They would all need to be controlled by the > same clock so they were perfectly synchronised - perfect timing is even > more important than usual in WFS systems. p 33 of the

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:37:42PM +, Augustine Leudar wrote: > I was thinking if I could cut down on the madi to adat boxes or DA > converters - is there something which uses D-SUB 25 out for example ? Some > sort of Madi-analogue converter with lots of outs maybe ?

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

@music.vt.edu Sent: Thu, December 6, 2012 1:37:52 PM Subject: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ? Hi all, I am looking for economical ways of building a 256 channel out system which will be connected to 256 speakers for a wavefield synthesis system. I do not need a desk - or even

[Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

Hi all, I am looking for economical ways of building a 256 channel out system which will be connected to 256 speakers for a wavefield synthesis system. I do not need a desk - or even inputs. You can get an RME HDSPe MADI FX for around £1000 which will do 192 channel out. Question 1 anyone know how